This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Could Spell the End of Targeted Ads
So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give away services supposed to do? Charge
i would prefer they not target people and follow us around everywhere. if ending targetted ads does that, that would be nice.
Eh, it's an opt-in service. I'm not all about having the government regulate online services
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I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they were anticipating that.
I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they
were anticipating that.
People seems to be very happy when some new regulation screws me over,
so while I don't agree
(in principle) with these sort of regulations, I am ready to go out the street with a whiskey
bottle and celebrate.
The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude and destroy Parler. It is
the market taking care of itself."
The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic private business such as
Facebook and destroy their revenew model".
Quoting Arelor to Esc <=-
Re: Re: ..the End of Targeted
By: esc to MRO on Mon Feb 20 2023 11:27 pm
The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude
and destroy Parler. It is the market taking care of itself."
The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic private business such as Facebook and destroy their revenew model".
This is not the left I remember. Leftists destroyed the left.
Quoting Esc to Arelor <=-
The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude and destroy Parler. It is
the market taking care of itself."
Nobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a right
wing cesspool? Good luck getting some company to host it.
The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic private business such as
Facebook and destroy their revenew model".
Correct. For an opt-in service that they host themselves.
I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelings going on?
Re: Re: ..the End of Targeted
By: Arelor to esc on Tue Feb 21 2023 11:39 am
I have heard Facebook was rolling a paid account system. I guess they we anticipating that.
Interestingly, Twitter turned off SMS MFA on my account, as it's only availa ---
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People seems to be very happy when some new regulation screws me over, so while I don't agree
(in principle) with these sort of regulations, I am ready to go out the street with a whiskey
bottle and celebrate.
Interesting perspective
The left 2020: "It is ok for Amazon and Google and Apple to collude and destroy Parler. It is
the market taking care of itself."
Nobody owes a platform to anyone else. Someone wants to make a right wing ce
Yes, this is the market taking care of itself.
The left 2023: "It is not ok for governments to interfere with legic private business such as
Facebook and destroy their revenew model".
Correct. For an opt-in service that they host themselves.
I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelings going
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but if it was spreading disinformation about covid you wanted action taken, right?
Facebook stopped the spread of covid disinformation themselves. The governme
Just like nobody was willing to host Parler. Free market, baby!
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Tell us what you really think of conservatives...
I don't see what's controversial here. Sounds like some hurt feelings going on?
Yours? Or Arelors...
Maybe your political party has protecting group A from group B (which is really, really messing up with group A). Group A is attacked one day by group B, you release an statement in support of A, condemn the attack, phone the representatives of group A to show them support...
... and group A tells you to eat shit and die because you are a fascist communist (what usually happens is some other political party has bought them)
The left used to be anti-corporativist and I kind of miss those times. Right now it looks like they are ready to be pro-corporativists as long
as the particular evil corporation in question is cool enough.
Well, Facebook being blocked from delivering targetted ads is our Governments protecting us from the abuse of an evil corporation. That
used to be a Good Thing for the Das Kapital brigade.
I have already ran into some people who thinks Government should prevent abusive corporative behavior that is not very different from Facebook s here, but somehow Facebook gets a free pass? They cannot have it both ways. If governments should interfere to prevent abusive prices for
phone subscriptions (which are opt-in) then you cannot defend Facebook
is a legit company being victimized by the evil governments of doom.
I mean, the real school lefties had principles. The Sex Pistols dude got bankrupt tryig to prevent Disney from using his stuff because he didn t want Sex Pistols to belong to (and I quote) Mickey Fucking Mouse.
abusive corporative behavior that is not very different from Facebook s here, but somehow Facebook gets a free pass? They cannot have it both ways. If governments should interfere to prevent abusive prices for phone subscriptions (which are opt-in) then you cannot defend Facebook is a legit company being victimized by the evil governments of doom.
Interesting perspective, but a phone is basically a critical need in this da ee to disagree I suppose.
want Sex Pistols to belong to (and I quote) Mickey Fucking Mouse.
I mean...he's like, one person, who is pretty fringe on the left. Can't expe
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If you disagree with fact checkers, or think they're up to no good, maybe en
Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires are t
writing lines of code like you seem to think.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
TOTP is theoretically safer than SMS verification, but for practical purposes, it is more of a headache. I think the average granny is more likely to set SMS auth than TOPT, and is she sets TOTP, she is more
likely to lose her acess tokens and suffer.
Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires are those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". Their entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. There aren't these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to think.
I don't care how good the employees are. The power Capital has is they can take good people and abuse them and enslave them and make them work torwards the Capital's goals instead of the worker's. Facebook is no difference at a fundamental level. It is owned by the Capital and workers' output is taken and used as the Capital sees fit.
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I don't care how good the employees are. The power Capital has is they c take good people and abuse them and enslave them and make them work torwards the Capital's goals instead of the worker's. Facebook is no difference at a fundamental level. It is owned by the Capital and worker output is taken and used as the Capital sees fit.
Sounds like what China is doing to its workers.
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they did all this stuff because they cared?Yes, they did. Who do you think works there? The people Facebook hires are those smart college kids that want to "make the world a better place". Their entire pitch and mission with recruiting is connecting people. There aren't these evil boogeymen people writing lines of code like you seem to think.
This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Could
Spell the End of Targeted Ads
Man, this is actually something I'm not a huge fan of.
Sure, targeted ads and feeling as though you're being spied
on is lame. Totally. I get it. But facebook is an opt-in
platform. It's not a public utility like a library, it's a
business. I don't see how any government can force a
business to give away access to a commercial platform for
free.
So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give
away services supposed to do? Charge for accounts? I guess?
Ogg wrote to esc <=-
One of the problems is that they use your activity data even
when you are not using FB. I've logged into FB for a few
minutes, check for some messages and then leave. But when I'd
visit another website, "targetted ads" based on what I was
reading on FB appear as ads on that other website! So,
clearly, FB is distributing my user activity/content info to
other parties.
I've seen people talking about a containerized browser for Facebook,
don't know if incognito mode would work. The mere fact that people need
to create a workaround to your company's privacy overreaches is a
serious issue that reflects the fact that you are their product, not
their customer.
Lmorchard wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
They do have kind of an insidious octopus of a service spread all
around. Sounds like tinfoil hat territory to accurately describe what
they do.
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