• New Modem/BBS Video

    From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to All on Tue Feb 13 13:20:54 2024
    Good afternoon!

    My first introduction to FidoNet and BBSes in general came to me from a 300 baud Direct Connect Modem Pak in 1991, on my Color Computer 2, which opened a whole new world of computing to this 10 year old computer enthusiast. I was able to track one down that was new in box, and I made a video about it and connected to a BBS with it. I hope you enjoy it! It can be found at youtube.com/bollingholt

    -Bo

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Bo Holt on Sun Feb 18 10:10:00 2024
    Hello Bo Holt!

    ** On Tuesday 13.02.24 - 13:20, Bo Holt wrote to All:

    My first introduction to FidoNet and BBSes in general came
    to me from a 300 baud Direct Connect Modem Pak in 1991, on
    my Color Computer 2 [...]

    The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I
    gathered up all the old modems (about 6-8 of them including a
    USR Robotics 56K Business Class lifetime warranty) I had
    acummulated over the years, and gave them to someone who
    "claims" might be able to put some of them to use for ham radio
    projects or something.

    I had about as many CRT monitors of various sizes too. Cut off
    the cords and delivered the monitors to recycling.

    The next biggest space-waster are about 8 old PC cases in
    various stages of assembly/disassembly. They really gotta go
    too.

    Yeah.. the old stuff triggers interesting memories. But, time
    is best spent in discovering new things to do, imho.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 18 11:25:28 2024
    On 18 Feb 24 10:10:00, August Abolins said the following to Bo Holt:

    The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I

    Same here, 100%. In fact my days of fiddling with tech itself are numbered.

    I just could not longer justify having boxes and boxes of tech parts for systems and projects that really would have no benefit in the end. As time went on, just lost interest.

    The systems and software config's running here are perfected as far as I could make them. There is nothing to fiddle with, no reason, no desire. The BBS on XP will never ever be changed. The home network, servers, Nas storage, Wifi are all sufficient for my needs.

    I kept my Tandy 1000 computers, thats about all. There is nothing to fiddle with those either, I've upgraded those as much as I cared to do so.

    Nick

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 18 18:50:12 2024
    I bet someone would have taken those CRTs. I'm holding on a few: old Mac monitors, a rare color display for a IIc, some VGA, TVs, and some pricey PVMs.
    There a few mini-tower cases from my youth I'd love to get one day with 386 or 486 class systems. ;)

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Nick Andre on Sun Feb 18 18:52:17 2024
    Quoting message from Nick Andre to August Abolins
    on 18 Feb 24 11:25:28 ...

    On 18 Feb 24 10:10:00, August Abolins said the following to Bo Holt:

    The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I

    Same here, 100%. In fact my days of fiddling with tech itself are numbered

    I just could not longer justify having boxes and boxes of tech parts for systems and projects that really would have no benefit in the end. As time went on, just lost interest.

    The systems and software config's running here are perfected as far as I c make them. There is nothing to fiddle with, no reason, no desire. The BBS XP will never ever be changed. The home network, servers, Nas storage, Wif are all sufficient for my needs.

    I kept my Tandy 1000 computers, thats about all. There is nothing to fiddl with those either, I've upgraded those as much as I cared to do so.
    I still want a Tandy 1000 RLX and a 1000 HX. I'm responding to this on my TL/2 as we speak!

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Mon Feb 19 07:13:00 2024
    August Abolins wrote to Bo Holt <=-

    Yeah.. the old stuff triggers interesting memories. But, time
    is best spent in discovering new things to do, imho.

    As much as I love the old hardware, virtualizing some environments in
    Proxmox and running DOSBOX-X meets most of my needs without requiring
    any extra clutter.




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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Bo Holt on Mon Feb 19 12:10:00 2024
    Hello Bo Holt!

    ** On Sunday 18.02.24 - 18:50, Bo Holt wrote to August Abolins:

    I bet someone would have taken those CRTs. I'm holding on
    a few: old Mac monitors, a rare color display for a IIc,
    some VGA, TVs, and some pricey PVMs. There a few mini-
    tower cases from my youth I'd love to get one day with 386
    or 486 class systems. ;)

    It seemed too bothersome to list them and manage visitations
    for people to see them. Power-hungry & heat-generating CRTs
    were/are simply outclassed by LCD screens.

    I do still have one 17" and 21" CRT though. The idea was to
    offer them to someone who needs one for occassional use.

    I still have my first Sony Trinitron TV, 20", from the late
    80s. I paid a small fortune for that thing. But it too must go.

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 21 18:59:50 2024
    I built a Proxmox server at work a few years ago, but then management
    changed before I even got to do anything with it except the initial installation... so I don't know anything about it as of now LOL. I run a couple of VMs in VirtualBox, used to use VMWare, and I play with DOSBox from time to time.

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to August Abolins on Wed Feb 21 19:01:51 2024
    Oh yes. LCDs definitely added convenience and easy portability to displays!

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Bo Holt on Thu Feb 29 06:24:00 2024
    Bo Holt wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    I built a Proxmox server at work a few years ago, but then management changed before I even got to do anything with it except the initial installation... so I don't know anything about it as of now LOL. I
    run a couple of VMs in VirtualBox, used to use VMWare, and I play with DOSBox from time to time.

    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam
    comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that
    direction.




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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 29 18:58:22 2024
    Hi Kurt,

    On 2024-02-29 06:24:00, you wrote to Bo Holt:

    I built a Proxmox server at work a few years ago, but then management
    changed before I even got to do anything with it except the initial
    installation... so I don't know anything about it as of now LOL. I
    run a couple of VMs in VirtualBox, used to use VMWare, and I play with
    DOSBox from time to time.

    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam
    comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that
    direction.

    I'm not all that familiar with Veeam, but isn't it just backup software for VMWare? Proxmox already has that build in...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Feb 29 13:42:12 2024
    Re: Re: New Modem/BBS Video
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 29 2024 06:58 pm

    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam comes
    out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that direction.

    I'm not all that familiar with Veeam, but isn't it just backup software for VMWare? Proxmox already has that build in...

    Proxmox has basic backup capabilities and Proxmox Backup Server for more capable backups, but Veeam has most of the market share of enterprise backup software. Getting Veeam agents working on Proxmox would be a huge win for getting Proxmox into enterprise data centers.
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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Mar 1 11:17:26 2024

    Hello Wilfred!

    29 Feb 24 18:58, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once
    Veeam comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving
    that direction.

    I'm not all that familiar with Veeam, but isn't it just backup
    software for VMWare? Proxmox already has that build in...

    Veeam has a couple of options.

    Hypervisor level based backup of vm's (ESXi/Hyper-V etc).
    Veeam Agent, that run's on the VM or even real hardware (I use it on both).

    Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does have some limitations though.


    Stephen


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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Mar 1 11:20:54 2024

    Hello Kurt!

    29 Feb 24 13:42, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Proxmox has basic backup capabilities and Proxmox Backup Server for
    more capable backups, but Veeam has most of the market share of
    enterprise backup software. Getting Veeam agents working on Proxmox
    would be a huge win for getting Proxmox into enterprise data centers.

    I have the Veeam agent working inside of proxmox VM's. They work just the same as runing the agent on real hardware (Doing that
    as well).


    Stephen


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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 29 18:49:20 2024
    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam
    comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that
    direction.

    Not sure, but I think I need to look into Proxmox some more and familiarize myself with it. I'm sure it's a marketable skill!

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Stephen Walsh on Fri Mar 1 10:38:15 2024
    Hi Stephen,

    On 2024-03-01 11:17:26, you wrote to me:

    Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does
    have some limitations though.

    Like what?


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Bo Holt on Fri Mar 1 06:19:00 2024
    Bo Holt wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Not sure, but I think I need to look into Proxmox some more and familiarize myself with it. I'm sure it's a marketable skill!

    My company uses Nutanix, a hyperconverged HA hypervisor - they sell
    blade servers with redundant hardware and have shared storage,
    networking, all the usuals. It's quite nice.

    It's built on qemu and kvm, same as Proxmox.

    There is a community edition of Nutanix, but I couldn't get it working
    on my homelab hardware. It wants separate boot, system and VM drives,
    and I had a sff system with one drive. I even tried virtualizing it, but
    I think I need a more modern CPU to do passthrough virtualization.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Bo Holt on Fri Mar 1 06:21:00 2024
    Bo Holt wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Not sure, but I think I need to look into Proxmox some more and familiarize myself with it. I'm sure it's a marketable skill!

    It definitely makes a nice homelab -- there's community updates and it
    runs on virtually anything that runs Debian. I had to phase out to
    running servers because VMWare decided to drop hardware support.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Mar 1 07:28:00 2024
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Stephen Walsh <=-

    Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does
    have some limitations though.

    Like what?

    I wish I had a bigger environment to run Proxmox in. I'd like to play
    with ZFS/CEPH and the high-availability bits. It looks pretty amazing,
    I've seen videos of people unplugging servers and services taking a
    short hiccup, then continuing on another server in the cluster.



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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Mar 1 17:05:59 2024
    Hi Kurt,

    On 2024-03-01 07:28:00, you wrote to me:

    Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does
    have some limitations though.

    Like what?

    I wish I had a bigger environment to run Proxmox in. I'd like to play
    with ZFS/CEPH and the high-availability bits. It looks pretty amazing, I've seen videos of people unplugging servers and services taking a
    short hiccup, then continuing on another server in the cluster.

    At work I run a little proxmox cluster (not HA), of 2 machines with both 4 VM's running on it. The VM's are all replicated to the other host machines. So if there would be a hardware problem on one machine, they can be started on the other machine. All VM's are backuped to a storage server by proxmox it self. If I wanted to do backup on a file level, it would be easy to do with a little scripting and rsync. But there is no need.

    We also have a VMWare esx server, that's backuped by Veeam. It's outsourced, but I do some basic maintenance on both the host and vm's.

    So I have a little bit of experience with both. And I don't see the limitations of proxmox compared to the VMWare + Veeam combination? I do know I like proxmox much more, and it's much cheaper if you don't need the support contract. Which you don't because it is rock solid! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Mar 2 11:14:26 2024

    Hello Wilfred!

    01 Mar 24 10:38, you wrote to me:

    Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It
    does have some limitations though.

    Like what?

    It will only read from one config file. So if you wnated to have different retention days or even a different location for the backup (Say off
    site), then you need to have two config files in a directory and then copy them to the /etc dir before starting the backup process.

    I don't use the gui for this, so it's all in a script that gets run from cron on the host.



    Stephen


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Sun Mar 10 16:10:10 2024
    August,
    I really desired owning a 17" CRT in 1993 while looking through Computer Shopper Magazines ads.
    I saw some in stores for$700+ USD, that was way more than I wanted to spend on Color Monitor.

    I asked over Ham Radio and was suggested to get a MAG Innovision 15" Multisync CTR.

    Back in 1984 a TV Set was all that was needed for the Commodore 64, but after 9 years of using it, and using a XT Clone w/ Green Screen at work for 3 years I wanted a 486 built.
    Someone at Church worked with a person who built PC's and had them call me about building one.
    I specified the MAG Monitor which back then sold for $535USD, what Video Card and how much Memory (16MB) in a Tower Case.

    The price quoted was well within prices in the magazine so I had it built.

    The MAG Monitor got put in the box when I saw a 19" LED for $200USD after getting a XP PC in IIRC 2006.

    That LCD Monitor sure beats the price back in 1993 for a 17"'er that sold for $700+USD.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Ed Vance on Mon Mar 11 21:59:00 2024
    Hello Ed Vance!

    ** On Sunday 10.03.24 - 16:10, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

    I really desired owning a 17" CRT in 1993 while looking
    through Computer Shopper Magazines ads. I saw some in
    stores for$700+ USD, that was way more than I wanted to
    spend on Color Monitor.

    My first computer monitors were colour. I went for two SVGA
    15" Viewsonic models. That was in the early 90's. They were
    around $500-700 CDN back then.

    That LCD Monitor sure beats the price back in 1993 for a
    17"'er that sold for $700+USD.

    Indeed it does. ;)


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    ../|ug

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Mon Mar 11 22:08:32 2024
    More fess'in up.

    Aka Wi-Fi

    I was wrong (again)

    The Vista Home notebook has Wi-Fi WEP

    Since WEP is easily broken I never used it.

    When I turn that box on, as the HDD grinds away loading the O/S , I watch for the Wi-Fi led to start blinking so I press that button to shut it down.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Ed Vance on Tue Mar 12 08:30:00 2024
    Hello Ed Vance!

    ** On Monday 11.03.24 - 22:08, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

    The Vista Home notebook has Wi-Fi WEP
    Since WEP is easily broken I never used it.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the more modern phone doesn't
    support WEP anyway.

    When I turn that box on, as the HDD grinds away loading
    the O/S , I watch for the Wi-Fi led to start blinking so I
    press that button to shut it

    Try to see if a connection *can* be made. A few seconds of
    connection time isn't to crack open your pc to anyone over the
    airwaves. Wifi from a laptop or phone isn't going to a have a
    very large range.

    Or.. perhaps better yet, try a Bluetooth linkup (I think that's
    referred to as "tethering" on the phones). The range for that
    is much shorter and probably much more secure than a WEP wifi.

    What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
    people operating wifi-based systems?

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to All on Tue Feb 13 13:20:54 2024
    Good afternoon!

    My first introduction to FidoNet and BBSes in general came to me from a 300 baud Direct Connect Modem Pak in 1991, on my Color Computer 2, which opened a whole new world of computing to this 10 year old computer enthusiast. I was able to track one down that was new in box, and I made a video about it and connected to a BBS with it. I hope you enjoy it! It can be found at youtube.com/bollingholt

    -Bo

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    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 18 18:50:12 2024
    I bet someone would have taken those CRTs. I'm holding on a few: old Mac monitors, a rare color display for a IIc, some VGA, TVs, and some pricey PVMs.
    There a few mini-tower cases from my youth I'd love to get one day with 386 or 486 class systems. ;)

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Nick Andre on Sun Feb 18 18:52:17 2024
    Quoting message from Nick Andre to August Abolins
    on 18 Feb 24 11:25:28 ...

    On 18 Feb 24 10:10:00, August Abolins said the following to Bo Holt:

    The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I

    Same here, 100%. In fact my days of fiddling with tech itself are numbered

    I just could not longer justify having boxes and boxes of tech parts for systems and projects that really would have no benefit in the end. As time went on, just lost interest.

    The systems and software config's running here are perfected as far as I c make them. There is nothing to fiddle with, no reason, no desire. The BBS XP will never ever be changed. The home network, servers, Nas storage, Wif are all sufficient for my needs.

    I kept my Tandy 1000 computers, thats about all. There is nothing to fiddl with those either, I've upgraded those as much as I cared to do so.
    I still want a Tandy 1000 RLX and a 1000 HX. I'm responding to this on my TL/2 as we speak!

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 21 18:59:50 2024
    I built a Proxmox server at work a few years ago, but then management
    changed before I even got to do anything with it except the initial installation... so I don't know anything about it as of now LOL. I run a couple of VMs in VirtualBox, used to use VMWare, and I play with DOSBox from time to time.

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to August Abolins on Wed Feb 21 19:01:51 2024
    Oh yes. LCDs definitely added convenience and easy portability to displays!

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 29 18:49:20 2024
    I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam
    comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that
    direction.

    Not sure, but I think I need to look into Proxmox some more and familiarize myself with it. I'm sure it's a marketable skill!

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)
  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Mon May 27 07:20:08 2024

    Hello Ed Vance!

    ** On Monday 11.03.24 - 22:08, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

    I wouldn't be surprised if the more modern phone doesn't
    support WEP anyway.

    Try to see if a connection *can* be made. A few seconds of
    connection time isn't to crack open your pc to anyone over the
    airwaves. Wifi from a laptop or phone isn't going to a have a
    very large range.

    Or.. perhaps better yet, try a Bluetooth linkup (I think that's
    referred to as "tethering" on the phones). The range for that
    is much shorter and probably much more secure than a WEP wifi.

    What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
    people operating wifi-based systems?

    --
    ../|ug

    When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
    Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

    (as You can see I'm learning how to quote)
    Sorry for quoting your whole post, but I would be forever removing text so I could begin answering you.

    I'm just not comfortable using the phone on a BBS - yet.
    Ed
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Mon May 27 07:24:27 2024
    P.S. I forget what echo/forum that I have posted msgs in.
    Just today I saw your reply to me.

    Not looked at this echo in a long time.
    Ed
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  • From Aug@2:460/256 to Ed Vance on Mon May 27 15:34:53 2024
    Hi Ed...

    P.S. I forget what echo/forum that I have posted msgs in.
    Just today I saw your reply to me.
    Not looked at this echo in a long time.
    Ed

    Welcome back! This can be a fine general-purpose place where people can meet, and where they can learn about specific echos that are dedicated to specific topics.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Ed Vance on Mon May 27 09:13:00 2024
    Hello Ed!

    What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
    people operating wifi-based systems?

    When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
    Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

    But that doesn't mean you should not use wif! ..or that you
    should fear eavesdropping. In your list, you should see a
    closed "lock" icon for most of them. They probably all
    represent WPA2 as well.

    Basically, the system is just informing you who is beaming
    radio signals around you. I think it is a GOOD thing to know
    that.


    (as You can see I'm learning how to quote)
    Sorry for quoting your whole post, but I would be forever removing text
    so I could begin answering you.

    No worries. I would think there is a "select-block of text"
    function available to you, but you haven't found it yet.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Mon May 27 12:32:00 2024
    When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
    Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

    That would be a list of wi-fi routers, etc., that are there for you to potentially make a connection to. They are not (necessarily) a list of
    people who can spy on your device, so long as you don't try to connect to
    them.

    Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to
    them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live near
    a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

    That said, unless you have wi-fi of your own, it does make sense to turn
    the wi-fi off on the phone.

    Mike


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Mon May 27 19:39:02 2024


    That would be a list of wi-fi routers, etc., that are there for you to potentially make a connection to. They are not (necessarily) a list of people who can spy on your device, so long as you don't try to connect to them.

    Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live near
    a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

    That said, unless you have wi-fi of your own, it does make sense to turn
    the wi-fi off on the phone

    No businesses nearby, this is a residential area.
    The only time I tried Wi-Fi is an app for Epson printer I have.
    It didn't allow me to print from this phone so I turned Wi-Fi OFF.

    I figure having it off show one less ssid broadcast to all my neighbors who use that function.
    Ed
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Tue May 28 10:25:00 2024
    I figure having it off show one less ssid broadcast to all my neighbors who use
    that function.

    Turning the wi-fi off on your router will show one less and, if you are not using it, I would keep it turned off.

    Your phone shouldn't show up to others unless you are connected to their router, or trying to connect.

    Mike

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Tue May 28 21:05:48 2024
    My router is cat5 only.
    Just the phone, AIO printer and notebook have Wi-Fi on them and it is turned OFF on them all.

    I have another router that I bought when I thought the County I live in was going to offer internet to the people in the County, learned after I got that.router that the internet plan was only for the rural areas.

    The Wi-Fi router didn't use the same IP Address as my cat5 router so to me it's unusable.
    If I find the device I saw the photo of, I would use it in place of the DSL Modem that's no longer usable here.
    I've tried looking thru Firefox History on this phone without any luck.

    I'm very trying, ask my wife.
    Ed
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Ed Vance on Wed May 29 22:25:00 2024
    Hello Ed!

    ** On Tuesday 28.05.24 - 21:05, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

    The Wi-Fi router didn't use the same IP Address as my cat5
    router so to me it's unusable.

    Routers can be configured to use any base IP address you need
    to match your home network.


    If I find the device I saw the photo of, I would use it in
    place of the DSL Modem that's no longer usable here.

    I am not sure what you saw is what you think you need. As I
    said before, I don't think you can expect to have your phone
    feed the mobile hotspot service with Cat5 from its USB.


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Thu May 30 20:19:07 2024

    Hello Ed!

    ** On Tuesday 28.05.24 - 21:05, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

    Routers can be configured to use any base IP address you need
    to match your home network.
    I bought that Wi-Fi router from a neighbor thinking the County Internet would either be Wi-Fi as I learned it was in Huntington WV, or through the local Cable Co. so I thought I would be able to use that router either way.
    That was before I called and asked when the service would start and was told it wasn't going to be for folks living in the cities

    I am not sure what you saw is what you think you need.
    said before, I don't think you can expect to have your phone
    feed the mobile hotspot service with Cat5 from its USB.
    Was wanting to use the device to communicate with the Bluetooth that's inside the phone, instead of doing Wi-Fi.
    I figured pairing the Bluetooth device with Bluetooth in the phone to transfer Data between them.
    Ed
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