• deaf and dumb

    From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to All on Fri Jan 22 09:40:00 2021
    Yesterday I got a flashback to the past when a deaf/dumb fellow
    walked into my shop. I didn't think the deaf/dumb tactic was a
    thing anymore.

    My shop is partially dark, (reduced overhead lighting during
    lockdown) and cold (reduced heating). I thought it was unusual
    that someone wouldn't respond to my "Hello". He just comes up
    to the check-out counter and proceeds to pull out 3 different ID
    cards and lay them out. They looked rather worn from being
    stored in a pocket. I did not look very closely, but one of
    them had the words "deaf", "hearing", "please", "give".

    I didn't look any closer for more details. I just said "I don't
    have time for this." Meanwhile, while standing in front of me,
    the fellow looks around the store. He made no attempt at eye-
    contact. There was no attempt to even communicate and
    appreciate my time or consideration. This is why I thought this
    was a pathetic performance and possibly a scam.

    The last time this sort of thing happend was over 8 years ago. A
    couple of singers with their guitars came into my shop,
    accompanying an apparrently a deaf girl. The premise was that my
    dollars would help pay for her livelyhood, or act as a tip for
    their wonderful unsolicited music, or something. At first I
    thought that maybe someone was delivering a singing telegram.
    But the request to pay for the performance combined with the
    begging really pissed me off more than anything.

    At times like this I wish I could brandish my Crocadile Dundee
    "you call that a knife?" machette, or call "Tiny", my doberman
    with a spiked collar, to escort these types out the door.

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Fri Jan 22 09:22:38 2021
    On 22 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    My shop is partially dark, (reduced overhead lighting during
    lockdown) and cold (reduced heating). I thought it was unusual

    So is this a part of the lockdown requirements or cost saving measures?

    Not to take away from the overall tale, but I'm curious.

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Fri Jan 22 09:32:20 2021
    On 22 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Yesterday I got a flashback to the past when a deaf/dumb fellow
    walked into my shop. I didn't think the deaf/dumb tactic was a
    thing anymore.

    Anything and everything can be used as a tactic. Beyond the dozens of
    Homeless Veterans I see on the corners, a new 'favorite' of mine are these Gentlemen with signs saying "Too Honest to Steal, Too Ugly to be a Gigalo."
    The last time this sort of thing happend was over 8 years ago. A
    couple of singers with their guitars came into my shop,
    accompanying an apparrently a deaf girl. The premise was that my
    dollars would help pay for her livelyhood, or act as a tip for
    their wonderful unsolicited music, or something. At first I
    thought that maybe someone was delivering a singing telegram.
    But the request to pay for the performance combined with the
    begging really pissed me off more than anything.


    Don't you have legal options to handle unwelcomed solucitations in your establishment?

    At times like this I wish I could brandish my Crocadile Dundee
    "you call that a knife?" machette, or call "Tiny", my doberman
    with a spiked collar, to escort these types out the door.

    Actually, Dundee's knifecwas more like a Bowie knife.

    I could see not having a d9g in a bookstore, but some means of self defense should be aporoprriate.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Charles Pierson on Sat Jan 23 08:53:52 2021

    My shop is partially dark, (reduced overhead lighting during
    lockdown) and cold (reduced heating). I thought it was unusual

    So is this a part of the lockdown requirements or cost saving measures?

    Not to take away from the overall tale, but I'm curious.


    It's the latter. No point lighting and heating when there is nary the traffic to justify it. If the lights are low, and if the motors for the furnace don't need to kick in, that's abut $100/mo that I don't have to borrow. I operate reduced hours too: 11a-3p.

    Looks like there won't be any change in the lockdown regulations either. Today was supposed to be the last day of the initial imposition affecting businesses. --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Charles Pierson on Sat Jan 23 09:36:27 2021

    Anything and everything can be used as a tactic. Beyond the dozens of Homeless Veterans I see on the corners, a new 'favorite' of mine are these Gentlemen with signs saying "Too Honest to Steal, Too Ugly to be a Gigalo."

    Heck, if that deaf/dumb fellow offered to wash the windows or vacuum for a few minutes, I wouldn't hesitate to "gift" $25 bucks. But there was no eye-contact, and no attempt to even try to speak.


    The last time this sort of thing happend was over 8 years ago. A
    couple of singers with their guitars came into my shop,

    Don't you have legal options to handle unwelcomed solucitations in your establishment?

    What is there? I can call the police, but the people would be gone by then.
    All I can do is offer my natural scowl and indicate that I am not the right person to mess with.

    People can overhear my telephone conversations with merchant-services and loans companies. I tell it like is and say "Unless you'd like to order something from *my* business, I don't have time for this - and don't call me back."

    I still get the odd "Please do not hang up. We've tried calling you numerous times to inform you that your google listing is in DANGER.."

    Pathetic. There ought to be a way to block those things permanently. Or.. if I had the resources, I'd love to switch those calls to another line (to free up the one that they've hijacked) and blast some static/hum/buzz or something.


    At times like this I wish I could brandish my Crocadile Dundee
    "you call that a knife?" machette, or call "Tiny", my doberman
    with a spiked collar, to escort these types out the door.

    Actually, Dundee's knifecwas more like a Bowie knife.

    Ah... but I said that my version was a machete! ;) It's more impressive than the Bowie knife. I even have a scythe that I could probably use and swing as I approach the trespassers to the door. <g>


    I could see not having a d9g in a bookstore, but some means of self defense should be aporoprriate.

    The dog wouldn't be too hard. With the right command, the animal could block the door and keep the intruder at bay. But I like the idea of some kind of mechanical way to entrap troublemakers and keep them escaping before authorities arrive.

    Or.. I need to bulk up with weight-lifting and wear a ninja bandana to clearly show that I am not to be messed with.
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  • From Charles Pierson@1:153/757.26 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 24 08:44:00 2021
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 1/23/21 9:36 AM you wrote:

    Anything and everything can be used as a tactic. Beyond the
    dozens of Homeless Veterans I see on the corners, a new
    'favorite' of mine are these Gentlemen with signs saying "Too
    Honest to Steal, Too Ugly to be a Gigalo."
    Heck, if that deaf/dumb fellow offered to wash the windows or
    vacuum for a few minutes, I wouldn't hesitate to "gift" $25 bucks.
    But there was no eye-contact, and no attempt to even try to speak.

    Well that would require he do actual work, which is what the scam is an attempt to avoid.

    The last time this sort of thing happend was over 8 years
    ago. A AA> couple of singers with their guitars came into my
    shop, Don't you have legal options to handle unwelcomed
    solucitations in your establishment?
    What is there? I can call the police, but the people would be gone
    by then. All I can do is offer my natural scowl and indicate that
    I am not the right person to mess with.

    That's very likely the case, but seeing that you are willing to involve the police is a deterrent of sorts in and of itself.

    People can overhear my telephone conversations with
    merchant-services and loans companies. I tell it like is and say
    "Unless you'd like to order something from *my* business, I don't
    have time for this - and don't call me back." I still get the odd
    "Please do not hang up. We've tried calling you numerous times to
    inform you that your google listing is in DANGER.."

    Yeah, those calls never end.

    Pathetic. There ought to be a way to block those things
    permanently. Or.. if I had the resources, I'd love to switch those
    calls to another line (to free up the one that they've hijacked)
    and blast some static/hum/buzz or something.

    The US has a "Do not call" registry, but with the ability to spoof numbers, etc, it's pretty useless.

    At times like this I wish I could brandish my Crocadile
    Dundee AA> "you call that a knife?" machette, or call "Tiny",
    my doberman AA> with a spiked collar, to escort these types
    out the door. Actually, Dundee's knifecwas more like a Bowie
    knife.
    Ah... but I said that my version was a machete! ;) It's more
    impressive than the Bowie knife. I even have a scythe that I
    could probably use and swing as I approach the trespassers to the
    door. <g>

    It would definitely have an affect.

    I could see not having a d9g in a bookstore, but some means of
    self defense should be aporoprriate.
    The dog wouldn't be too hard. With the right command, the animal
    could block the door and keep the intruder at bay. But I like the
    idea of some kind of mechanical way to entrap troublemakers and
    keep them escaping before authorities arrive.

    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of course.

    Or.. I need to bulk up with weight-lifting and wear a ninja
    bandana to clearly show that I am not to be messed with.

    That wouldn't work in my case. I'll always be tall and lanky, though I am developing a bit of gut.


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Charles Pierson on Tue Jan 26 09:32:00 2021
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Sunday 24.01.21 - 08:44, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    Heck, if that deaf/dumb fellow offered to wash the windows
    or vacuum for a few minutes, I wouldn't hesitate to "gift"
    $25 bucks. But there was no eye-contact, and no attempt to
    even try to speak.

    Well that would require he do actual work, which is what
    the scam is an attempt to avoid.

    Heheh. True! I wasn't in a give-a-life-lesson mood, so I just
    scowled. Thankfully he turned around and walked out a few
    seconds later - but he gave no indication of anything that
    resembled "thank you for your time". But like I said earlier,
    just before he left, he took a quick look around the place - as
    if to see what might be worth stealing. Since I can't just grab
    a pile of my book stock and trade that for food, drugs or booze,
    he probably realized the same thing.


    What is there? I can call the police, but the people would
    be gone by then. All I can do is offer my natural scowl
    and indicate that I am not the right person to mess with.

    That's very likely the case, but seeing that you are
    willing to involve the police is a deterrent of sorts in
    and of itself.

    I am not necessarily willing per se. I would not be comfortable
    to involve the police. I have the local police emergency number
    plastered on my cash register so it's nice and handy. But it has
    not been necessary for all the years that I've operated.

    I *have* called the police on behalf of other people though.
    There was one fellow (who I knew) came in and claimed that his
    truck was stolen. He was in a totl panic! End of that story is -
    he forgot where he parked it.


    Pathetic. There ought to be a way to block those things
    permanently. Or.. if I had the resources, I'd love to
    switch those calls to another line (to free up the one
    that they've hijacked) and blast some static/hum/buzz or
    something.

    The US has a "Do not call" registry, but with the ability
    to spoof numbers, etc, it's pretty useless.

    The phone companies claim that spoofing is necessary to support
    the callfowarding and re-direction features they sell.

    I'm still toying with the idea of trying https://
    jollyrogertelephone.com/ There's an additional cost for
    landlines, but it might be worth it.


    ..But I like the idea of some kind of mechanical way to
    entrap troublemakers and keep them escaping before
    authorities arrive.

    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what
    they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of
    course.

    Along those same lines, I've looked into a basic automatic door
    opener (to help open the door from remote when people with
    walkers or wheelchairs can get in and out easier) But the
    starting cost was close to $3K. For now, I just whip around the
    counter and hold the door open.

    Some kind of automated way to lock the door upon pressing a
    panic button would be cool.


    Or.. I need to bulk up with weight-lifting and wear a
    ninja bandana to clearly show that I am not to be messed
    with.

    That wouldn't work in my case. I'll always be tall and
    lanky, though I am developing a bit of gut.

    I think people respect (or fear) people who are fit, poised, and
    limber more than those that are not.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Charles Pierson on Tue Jan 26 09:41:00 2021
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Sunday 24.01.21 - 08:44, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what
    they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of
    course.

    Which video clip was that? I don't remember.

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 26 09:08:16 2021
    On 26 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Well that would require he do actual work, which is what
    the scam is an attempt to avoid.

    Heheh. True! I wasn't in a give-a-life-lesson mood, so I just
    scowled. Thankfully he turned around and walked out a few
    seconds later - but he gave no indication of anything that
    resembled "thank you for your time". But like I said earlier,
    just before he left, he took a quick look around the place - as
    if to see what might be worth stealing. Since I can't just grab
    a pile of my book stock and trade that for food, drugs or booze,
    he probably realized the same thing.


    Much to my wife's displeasure, I'm sure, I'd likely be willing to operate on
    a barter system if books for food.

    That's very likely the case, but seeing that you are
    willing to involve the police is a deterrent of sorts in
    and of itself.
    I am not necessarily willing per se. I would not be comfortable
    to involve the police. I have the local police emergency number plastered on my cash register so it's nice and handy. But it has
    not been necessary for all the years that I've operated.


    Why is that? I mean your not being comfortable with involving the poluce?
    The US has a "Do not call" registry, but with the ability
    to spoof numbers, etc, it's pretty useless.

    The phone companies claim that spoofing is necessary to support
    the callfowarding and re-direction features they sell.

    I highly doubt that. More lijely they just don't want to spend more money on
    a bit of additional code to fix the problem.

    So now you have the problem of people calling back those spoofed numbers to complain instead giving some sweet old lady an earful.

    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what
    they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of
    course.

    Along those same lines, I've looked into a basic automatic door
    opener (to help open the door from remote when people with
    walkers or wheelchairs can get in and out easier) But the
    starting cost was close to $3K. For now, I just whip around the
    counter and hold the door open.

    Some kind of automated way to lock the door upon pressing a
    panic button would be cool.

    That second option is what I was refering to.

    I think people respect (or fear) people who are fit, poised, and
    limber more than those that are not.


    Probably, Although at 6.5 feet tall or so, I have been told I tend to look intimidating even though I am thin.

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 26 09:10:11 2021
    On 26 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what
    they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of
    course.

    Which video clip was that? I don't remember.

    The "Black Books" or whatever it's called program. About the bookstore. It
    may have been on a different epusode than the one you shared.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Charles Pierson on Tue Jan 26 23:06:13 2021
    On 26 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Invest in remote activated locks? Better one than what
    they used in that video clip you shared a while back, of
    course.

    Which video clip was that? I don't remember.

    The "Black Books" or whatever it's called program. About the bookstore. It
    may have been on a different epusode than the one you shared.


    Ah yes! Now I remember. I think it *was* on the same episode. The problem they had with that installation was that there didn't seem to be a way to deactivate the lock from the outside.

    I like this one. It bears my name:

    August Wi-Fi Smart Lock (Newest Model 4th Gen) - Alexa, Google Assistant, HomeKit, SmartThings and Airbnb Compatible - Upgrade Your Deadbolt ? Matte Black

    https://tinyurl.com/yyudhy33

    Looks like a fancy servo motor or something. Not sure how it's powered, and how annoying that might be to maintain.


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Charles Pierson on Tue Jan 26 22:33:00 2021
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Tuesday 26.01.21 - 09:08, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    ..Since I can't just grab a pile of my book stock and
    trade that for food, drugs or booze, he probably realized
    the same thing.


    Much to my wife's displeasure, I'm sure, I'd likely be
    willing to operate on a barter system if books for food.

    What I find disconcerting is that the gov't taxes me on stock as
    if it has value, yet I can't use that stock and buy anything
    with it. :/

    I get crazy people who bring in their used books and point out
    specific ones are "brand new", and expect me to therefore pay
    them full retail price. Sheesh.


    I am not necessarily willing per se. I would not be
    comfortable to involve the police. I have the local
    police emergency number plastered on my cash register so
    it's nice and handy. But it has not been necessary for all
    the years that I've operated.

    Why is that? I mean your not being comfortable with
    involving the poluce?

    I don't like the idea that I would need to get the police
    involved. I wouldn't like to deal with the drama.

    I had an incident of vandalism a few years ago. I reported it to
    the landlord first. They inturn reported it to the police.
    Apparently it was serious enough to report to the police. But my
    first thought was not to bother with the police.

    This winter, I decorated the outside of my shop with a couple of
    seasonal potted decorations. I paid a local artist about $50
    each. One morning, I found one of them missing. I could have
    taken those piece in every night (but they were heavy), so I
    left them as is each night. It wasn't a problem for over a
    month. But then, some punk decides to help themselves to one of
    them. I didn't bother reporting that either.

    Prior to that, it was known that some punk was going around town
    and turning off the propane tanks of the businesses. But I
    didn't know that until I spoke to the propane company.

    If the reporting is to be effective, it needs to be reciprocal.
    In otherwords, it there is reason to suspect that someone is
    going around town vandalizing things, then the store owners
    should be notified by the police. But that doesn't happen. We
    may only read about certain events a week later in the
    newspaper.


    The phone companies claim that spoofing is necessary to
    support the callfowarding and re-direction features they
    sell.

    I highly doubt that. More lijely they just don't want to
    spend more money on a bit of additional code to fix the
    problem.

    I read into this matter some time ago, and it turns out that
    their excuse is that different countries have different
    equipment and it is therefore hard to unify everyone on a single
    stategy or "code" to fix the problem.

    But I also read that allowing such calls to come through is a
    money maker. The receiving country has a billing mechanism to
    charge the calling country. So, why would the receiving country
    deny *any* calls when there is opportunity to collect calling
    fees. Blocking all those spoofing and spammng calls would be a
    big loss of revenue.


    So now you have the problem of people calling back those
    spoofed numbers to complain instead giving some sweet old
    lady an earful.

    Not sure what you mean by that.


    I think people respect (or fear) people who are fit,
    poised, and limber more than those that are not.

    Probably, Although at 6.5 feet tall or so, I have been told
    I tend to look intimidating even though I am thin.

    Height is another plus factor. There is probably less chance
    that any punk will want to mess with someone who towers over
    them.

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Wed Jan 27 08:45:25 2021
    On 26 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    What I find disconcerting is that the gov't taxes me on stock as
    if it has value, yet I can't use that stock and buy anything
    with it. :/

    I'm well aware of the fun with inventory taxes. I worked in a large international company at one of the manufacturing facilities. At one point,
    my job was basically a data analyst taked with analyzing inventory to improve delivery times for customer orders. We opened a new facility on Singapore to manifacture the same items we did to improve support Asia and Australia.

    For about 2 years, we had to order material for both locations while yhe located and qualified local suppliers to meet our specifications for things.

    This resultedd in our loccation holding huge amounts of inventory, and me, a non manager arguing with managers of several departments on 2 continents
    about which location wound up with what material come inventory tax time. Considering the 13 hour time difference betwern Singapore and Houston, I
    didn't sleep much.

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  • From Charles Pierson@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Wed Jan 27 09:34:20 2021
    On 26 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Why is that? I mean your not being comfortable with
    involving the poluce?

    I don't like the idea that I would need to get the police
    involved. I wouldn't like to deal with the drama.

    I get not wanting to deal with drama. If it's not a common occurance I'd not want to either.

    I had an incident of vandalism a few years ago. I reported it to
    the landlord first. They inturn reported it to the police.
    Apparently it was serious enough to report to the police. But my
    first thought was not to bother with the police.


    A police report is usually required if an insurance claim is being done.
    There are other reasons as well of course.

    This winter, I decorated the outside of my shop with a couple of seasonal potted decorations. I paid a local artist about $50
    each. One morning, I found one of them missing. I could have
    taken those piece in every night (but they were heavy), so I
    left them as is each night. It wasn't a problem for over a
    month. But then, some punk decides to help themselves to one of
    them. I didn't bother reporting that either.

    That I'm kind of torn about. Simply because of the dollar value, it wouldn't
    be very high priority for the police to investigate, unless it was one of
    many such incidents in the community.

    But, you bought and someone decided it was ok just to ttake it.

    Prior to that, it was known that some punk was going around town
    and turning off the propane tanks of the businesses. But I
    didn't know that until I spoke to the propane company.

    If the reporting is to be effective, it needs to be reciprocal.
    In otherwords, it there is reason to suspect that someone is
    going around town vandalizing things, then the store owners
    should be notified by the police. But that doesn't happen. We
    may only read about certain events a week later in the
    newspaper.

    Besides the police not making it known, do your fellow shopkeepers talk with each other about things? It's odd that it wasn't better heard of sooner.


    I read into this matter some time ago, and it turns out that
    their excuse is that different countries have different
    equipment and it is therefore hard to unify everyone on a single
    stategy or "code" to fix the problem.

    Since VOIP is becoming more common than hardlines, I'm not so sure that that
    is a totally honest answer anymore.

    But I also read that allowing such calls to come through is a
    money maker. The receiving country has a billing mechanism to
    charge the calling country. So, why would the receiving country
    deny *any* calls when there is opportunity to collect calling
    fees. Blocking all those spoofing and spammng calls would be a
    big loss of revenue.

    I'm sure tax revenue plays a part on the government side.

    So now you have the problem of people calling back those
    spoofed numbers to complain instead giving some sweet old
    lady an earful.

    Not sure what you mean by that.


    Occasionally, I have called back the number on the caller ID, only to have it be some eldery ladies home number, not some company the message is suppisedly from.

    So "Stop calling me, I have no interest in using your company for insurance/filing for disability/renewing my car warranty on my 20 year old
    car" is directed to this poor woman instead of the scammers.

    Probably, Although at 6.5 feet tall or so, I have been told
    I tend to look intimidating even though I am thin.

    Height is another plus factor. There is probably less chance
    that any punk will want to mess with someone who towers over
    them.

    There is some truth to that.


    By the way, your Handle you use at times Ogg, struck my as familiar, althoygh
    I wasn't sure why.

    I figured it out, That's the last name of the District Attorney here in
    Harris County.

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