• New Router

    From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to All on Sun Jun 1 14:08:39 2014
    I just installed a new router. IP-Link AC1750

    When I do an IPConfig, I get the following. On this Windows 8 system this.

    Windows IP Configuration


    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd03:b3bf:62ca:8812:7521:fab0:5455:8c10
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f817:b5b5:82b:dff7%9
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.145.77
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:4ac:d3:1:c71:c459:6cce:9fea
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:4ac:d3:1:29ec:3e3c:daf:23a4
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c71:c459:6cce:9fea%3
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.187
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::12fe:edff:feaf:8afc%3
    192.168.0.1

    Tunnel adapter isatap.{4E99217A-9725-4B57-928E-465438658B25}:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:79fd:8d7:2503:3f57:ff44
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8d7:2503:3f57:ff44%5
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    Tunnel adapter isatap.{87637A74-7C58-4C7E-B1D3-53F775615AC3}:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :


    On the BBS and Mailer system (Vista) I get this

    Windows IP Configuration


    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:4ac:d3:1:6c73:241b:d0fd:4fbb
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:4ac:d3:1:8048:f754:3c9d:18cc
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::6c73:241b:d0fd:4fbb%8
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::12fe:edff:feaf:8afc%8
    192.168.0.1

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :


    I'm not very familiar with this new (to me) stuff, so anybody have an idea what this all means?
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Jun 1 21:28:48 2014
    Hello Joe!

    Jun 01 14:08 2014, Joe Delahaye wrote to All:


    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd03:b3bf:62ca:8812:7521:fab0:5455:8c10
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f817:b5b5:82b:dff7%9
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.145.77
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    fd03 is an ULA (private IPv6 address). fe80 is the automatic link-local address. It's created for each interface. Since it may be the same for several interfaces, it got the '%9" to indicate the interface or scope. 169.254.145.77 looks like a DHCP client without getting any address.

    Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2002:4ac:d3:1:c71:c459:6cce:9fea
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . :
    2002:4ac:d3:1:29ec:3e3c:daf:23a4
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c71:c459:6cce:9fea%3
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.187
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::12fe:edff:feaf:8afc%3
    192.168.0.1

    Here we got two 6to4 addresses. One is created by the privacy extensions (random interface address which is changed every x minutes). And of course the link-local address fe80.


    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:79fd:8d7:2503:3f57:ff44
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8d7:2503:3f57:ff44%5
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    Teredo and link-local


    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2002:4ac:d3:1:6c73:241b:d0fd:4fbb
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . :
    2002:4ac:d3:1:8048:f754:3c9d:18cc
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::6c73:241b:d0fd:4fbb%8
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::12fe:edff:feaf:8afc%8
    192.168.0.1

    Again, two 6to4 addresses, one created by the privacy extensions. And the link-local address.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Sun Jun 1 16:34:58 2014
    Re: New Router
    By: Markus Reschke to Joe Delahaye on Sun Jun 01 2014 21:28:48

    Again, two 6to4 addresses, one created by the privacy extensions. And the link-local address.


    So, I'm guessing that NO IPv6 connection exists to or from this system? Like I mentioned. this is completely new to me <G> I am using the stock router software. I picked this one because apparently it can be flashed with third party software like Open-WRT.
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jun 2 21:45:30 2014
    Hello Joe!

    Jun 01 16:34 2014, Joe Delahaye wrote to Markus Reschke:

    So, I'm guessing that NO IPv6 connection exists to or from this
    system? Like I

    No native IPv6 ;-) 6to4 and Teredo are tunneling methods.

    mentioned. this is completely new to me <G> I am using the stock
    router
    software. I picked this one because apparently it can be flashed
    with third
    party software like Open-WRT.

    OpenWrt is great! Tons of features and even the trunk version is rock solid.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Mon Jun 2 20:42:47 2014
    Re: New Router
    By: Markus Reschke to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jun 02 2014 21:45:30

    No native IPv6 ;-) 6to4 and Teredo are tunneling methods.

    I knew that was a tunnel, but setting it to 6to4 was the only way I got any address showing, so I thought I would try that. I have no idea how to go further.

    OpenWrt is great! Tons of features and even the trunk version is rock solid.

    Maybe I will give it a try. Cant do any worse then what is on it now. Having problems staying connected to my BBS from the main computer on my network. I have not tried the other ones yet. I start a message answer, and am stopped dead, and shut down. Frustrating. It may be coincidence but who knows.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Tue Jun 3 18:40:22 2014
    Re: New Router
    By: Joe Delahaye to Markus Reschke on Mon Jun 02 2014 20:42:47

    I knew that was a tunnel, but setting it to 6to4 was the only way I got any address showing, so I thought I would try that. I have no idea how to go further.

    OpenWrt is great! Tons of features and even the trunk version is
    rock solid.

    Maybe I will give it a try. Cant do any worse then what is on it now. Having problems staying connected to my BBS from the main computer on my network. I have not tried the other ones yet. I start a message answer, and am stopped dead, and shut down. Frustrating. It may be coincidence but who knows.

    It seems that it can be worse. Open WRT for my TPLink model AC1750, will not support the 5 Ghz protocol. Only the 2.4 side. Should have purchased the cheaper model it looks like. Also, I was having problems staying connected via telnet, even on the same machine, with IPv6 enable. I shut it off. Had to reboot the router to make the change, and now it all works. Perhaps a coincedence, which I will test later on, but now I can at least read and reply to my mail.
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Joe Delahaye on Tue Jun 3 19:08:10 2014
    Hello Joe,

    On 03 Jun 14 18:40, Joe Delahaye wrote to Markus Reschke:

    It seems that it can be worse. Open WRT for my TPLink model AC1750,
    will not support the 5 Ghz protocol. Only the 2.4 side. Should
    have purchased the cheaper model it looks like. Also, I was having problems staying connected via telnet, even on the same machine, with
    IPv6 enable. I shut it off. Had to reboot the router to make the
    change, and now it all works. Perhaps a coincedence, which I will
    test later on, but now I can at least read and reply to my mail.
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    If you bought a newer router, it will take open source firmware developers a little time to get ahold of that specific router and make sure the firmware works for it. I got an Asus RT-AC68R somewhat recently and DD-WRT was the same deal. At the time it didn't support 5ghz and a few other features, but I'm sure it does now.

    Luckily for me, the Asus routers have a 3rd party firmware developer (Merlin) that works real close with Asus and has kept the firmware as close to default as possible, with additions of his own stuff like an IPv6 firewall built in, as well as other useful stuff.

    Anyhow, keep an eye on the development of OpenWRT for your router, it will be fully supported soon most likely.

    As far as your issue.. I could possibly see that happening if you don't have native IPv6 (or a tunnel setup, for that matter) and enable IPv6 anyways. What you experienced probably shouldn't happen, but I suppose it could.

    Until you actually have native IPv6 or a tunnel setup, I'd keep it disabled as it doesn't do any good for you anyways.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Nicholas Boel on Tue Jun 3 22:32:29 2014
    Re: New Router
    By: Nicholas Boel to Joe Delahaye on Tue Jun 03 2014 19:08:10

    If you bought a newer router, it will take open source firmware developers a little time to get ahold of that specific router and make sure the firmware works for it. I got an Asus RT-AC68R somewhat recently and DD-WRT was the same deal. At the time it didn't support 5ghz and a few other features, but I'm sure it does now.

    The note I read mentioned that it would likely never be incorperated, due to the fact that the open source library, does not support the 5 Ghz and likely never will.

    Anyhow, keep an eye on the development of OpenWRT for your router, it will be fully supported soon most likely.

    Hopefully, but we shall see. It seems overly complicated to flash with new code though. Having to install new hardware, such as a serial cable to the circuit board, etc.


    As far as your issue.. I could possibly see that happening if you don't have native IPv6 (or a tunnel setup, for that matter) and enable IPv6 anyways. What you experienced probably shouldn't happen, but I suppose it could.

    The default is enabled, so I left it like that.


    Until you actually have native IPv6 or a tunnel setup, I'd keep it disabled as it doesn't do any good for you anyways.


    For now I will keep it disabled. I have no idea on how to do the tunneling
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 4 12:05:16 2014
    Hi Joe!

    Jun 03 18:40 2014, Joe Delahaye wrote to Markus Reschke:

    It seems that it can be worse. Open WRT for my TPLink model AC1750,
    will not
    support the 5 Ghz protocol. Only the 2.4 side. Should have
    purchased the
    cheaper model it looks like. Also, I was having problems staying

    Let's check http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr7500:

    For the Archer C7 v1.x and WDR7500 v2.x, the 5GHz 802.11a/n/ac functionality is not supported, and likely will never be, since support for the AR1A (v1) variant of QCA9880 chip is not included in the open source ath10k driver. The Archer C7 v2.x uses the BR4A (v2) variant which is supported in ath10k.

    The 5GHz module seems to be a Mini PCIe. So you could replace it with something supported, but would have to add the driver manually, I assume. If that's too much hassle, the TL-WDR4300 (about EUR 50) is fully supported and got also dual band.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Wed Jun 4 11:16:51 2014
    Re: New Router
    By: Markus Reschke to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 04 2014 12:05:16

    Let's check http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr7500:

    For the Archer C7 v1.x and WDR7500 v2.x, the 5GHz 802.11a/n/ac functionality is not supported, and likely will never be, since support for the AR1A (v1) variant of QCA9880 chip is not included in the open source ath10k driver. The Archer C7 v2.x uses the BR4A (v2) variant which is supported in ath10k.

    Yes, that is what I was referring to. the 4300 was the other unit I was looking at. I suppose I should have done a little more research then what I did. Too late now

    The 5GHz module seems to be a Mini PCIe. So you could replace it with something supported, but would have to add the driver manually, I assume. If that's too much hassle, the TL-WDR4300 (about EUR 50) is fully supported and got also dual band.

    $78 Cdn plus 13% tax
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