• This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Feb 17 17:08:40 2016
    Hello All,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 17 10:50:14 2016
    On Wed Feb-17-2016 17:08, Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555) wrote to All:

    MvdV> Hello All,

    MvdV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Interesting video and accent. Is she Spanish perhaps?


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roger Nelson on Wed Feb 17 17:53:58 2016
    Hello Roger,

    On Wednesday February 17 2016 10:50, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Interesting video and accent. Is she Spanish perhaps?

    The video comes from Lapnic. So not from Spain, but probably a Spanish or Portugese native speaker.



    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Wed Feb 17 19:57:16 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 17 2016 10:50:14

    MvdV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Interesting video and accent. Is she Spanish perhaps?


    Robot voice I think.
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Feb 18 11:55:00 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    17 Feb 2016 17:08:40, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Excellent animation!

    I'd even like to get the script (ideally: text with time marks) and perform dubbing it to Russian...


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Feb 18 09:43:12 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    17 Feb 2016 17:08, from Michiel van der Vlist -> All:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Funny video.
    But not really capturing what is happening (at least here).

    All ISPs here do offer IPv6 on business services, if requested.

    On the residential side you have 2 choices:
    a) give up your IPv4 address and get DS-Lite (carrier grade NATv4 + IPv6)
    b) stay IPv4 only

    Both options are not great.
    I am customer of my ISP since 1998.
    If I accept a new CPE from them, they will TAKE AWAY my IPv4, and offer DS-Lite.

    Let us be honest ... there are still many Services that make having a public v4 address a very nice thing to have.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Feb 18 12:00:00 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    17 Feb 2016 17:53:58, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    MvdV>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw
    Interesting video and accent. Is she Spanish perhaps?
    MvdV> The video comes from Lapnic.

    LACNIC. First "C" stands for "Caribbean".


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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 07:04:53 2016
    On Wed Feb-17-2016 19:57, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 17 2016
    10:50:14

    MvdV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Interesting video and accent. Is she Spanish perhaps?

    Robot voice I think.

    A Spanish or Portuguese robot telling us all about IPv6? (-:


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Thu Feb 18 11:14:06 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 2016 07:04:53

    Robot voice I think.

    A Spanish or Portuguese robot telling us all about IPv6? (-:


    Its either a very poor narrator, or a robot voice with an accent <G>
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 16:29:43 2016
    On Thu Feb-18-2016 11:14, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 2016 07:04:53

    Robot voice I think.

    A Spanish or Portuguese robot telling us all about IPv6? (-:

    Its either a very poor narrator, or a robot voice with an accent

    BTW, I can't imagine why testmyipv6.com shows the following:

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Excellent!

    You are successfully using IPv6 to connect to this server!

    Your IPv6 address is 2602:306:ce75:5400:4d4a:d5c4:136d:38f. -----------------------------------------------------------------

    and a tracert from you fails, but I'll look into it tomorrow.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Thu Feb 18 20:30:21 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 2016 16:29:43

    BTW, I can't imagine why testmyipv6.com shows the following:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent!

    You are successfully using IPv6 to connect to this server!

    Your IPv6 address is 2602:306:ce75:5400:4d4a:d5c4:136d:38f. -----------------------------------------------------------------

    and a tracert from you fails, but I'll look into it tomorrow.


    Let me know what you find <G>
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 11:40:06 2016
    On Thu Feb-18-2016 20:30, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Thu Feb 18 2016 16:29:43

    [...]

    Let me know what you find <G>

    I will, but in the meantime, you won't want to watch this video: Tutorial IPV6 en redes de acceso fijo y movil - Parte 1 (in Spanish or Portuguese). It's over 2:45 mins and is only part 1! (-:


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 12:52:16 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 2016 11:40:06

    Let me know what you find <G>

    I will, but in the meantime, you won't want to watch this video: Tutorial IPV6 en redes de acceso fijo y movil - Parte 1 (in Spanish or Portuguese). It's over 2:45 mins and is only part 1! (-:


    Unless it has subtitles it would be a waste of time for me to even try <G>. BTW, it seems my IPV6 is downs again :(
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 13:22:45 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Joe Delahaye to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 2016 12:52:16

    <G>. BTW, it seems my IPV6 is downs again :(

    Resetting the router seems to have fixed it. I'm told that the power cycled on and off several times on Thursday evening while we were out of town. Perhaps that had something to do with it. I think that it is not pluggedinto the UPS. No room left.
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 13:47:06 2016
    On Sat Feb-20-2016 12:52, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 2016 11:40:06

    Let me know what you find <G>

    I will, but in the meantime, you won't want to watch this video:
    Tutorial IPV6 en redes de acceso fijo y movil - Parte 1 (in
    Spanish or Portuguese). It's over 2:45 mins and is only part 1! (-:

    Unless it has subtitles it would be a waste of time for me to even
    try <G>. BTW, it seems my IPV6 is downs again :(

    For a 2-hour, 45-minute+ video, I doubt the subtitles would be correct. I haven't edited one that long and knock on wood, I hope I never do. In any case, the subtitles for it are unavailable.

    Besides that, I can't get ahold of anyone reliable at AT&T on the weekend to inquire after my alleged IPv6 address, so we'll put off further discussion about it until Monday, when I'm positive I'll give someone a headache. (-:

    ... "Wisdom is wasted on the old. We part with it, but very few take it."


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 14:01:12 2016
    On Sat Feb-20-2016 13:22, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Joe Delahaye to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 2016 12:52:16

    <G>. BTW, it seems my IPV6 is downs again :(

    Resetting the router seems to have fixed it. I'm told that the
    power cycled on and off several times on Thursday evening while we
    were out of town. Perhaps that had something to do with it. I
    think that it is not pluggedinto the UPS. No room left.

    That has everything to do with it. Oddly eough, I had to do that very same thing with my RG (Regional Gateway) yesterday by unplugging it for about 20 seconds and then plugging it back in and we didn't have a power failure or evn a brown-out. Usually I can reset it with the TV remote, but that did not work this time. The Internet was slowed to a crawl, which all but halted my research on IPv6. Once the RG was reset, everything returned to normal.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 16:13:15 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 2016 13:47:06

    For a 2-hour, 45-minute+ video, I doubt the subtitles would be correct. I haven't edited one that long and knock on wood, I hope I never do. In any case, the subtitles for it are unavailable.

    Besides that, I can't get ahold of anyone reliable at AT&T on the weekend to inquire after my alleged IPv6 address, so we'll put off further discussion about it until Monday, when I'm positive I'll give someone a headache. (-:

    Sounds good. In the meantime my IPv6 is back online.


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    Aint that the truth <G>

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roger Nelson on Sat Feb 20 16:15:39 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Sat Feb 20 2016 14:01:12

    were out of town. Perhaps that had something to do with it. I
    think that it is not pluggedinto the UPS. No room left.

    That has everything to do with it. Oddly eough, I had to do that very same thing with my RG (Regional Gateway) yesterday by unplugging it for about 20 seconds and then plugging it back in and we didn't have a power failure or evn a brown-out. Usually I can reset it with the TV remote, but that did not work this time. The Internet was slowed to a crawl, which all but halted my research on IPv6. Once the RG was reset, everything returned to normal.

    Strange though. Oh well whatever works is good.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 00:18:37 2016
    Hello Joe,

    On Saturday February 20 2016 16:13, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Sounds good. In the meantime my IPv6 is back online.

    But your IPv6 address has changed. Your system no longer accepts incoming at 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef.

    When calling out to me it presents: 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:5ca2:8378:ffe0:6977, but it does not answer at that address, so that may be a temporary privacy extension address.

    The odd thing is that it is not the prefix that has changed, only the suffix. So it is a problem local to your system.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 21 11:01:41 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 00:18:37

    But your IPv6 address has changed. Your system no longer accepts incoming at 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef.

    When calling out to me it presents: 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:5ca2:8378:ffe0:6977, but it does not answer at that address, so that may be a temporary privacy extension address.

    The odd thing is that it is not the prefix that has changed, only the suffix. So it is a problem local to your system.

    I dont know how to assign the IPv6 address to a specific computer in the system. Unlike the IPv4 setup in the router, there is nothing like that in the v6 setup. I also have no idea how to do so on the computer itself. There was a time I could assign a permananent IP in the networking setup, but I dont know if the same can be done with the IPv6.

    I just did an Ipconfig on the bbs system and here is what I got.

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef%6
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6%6


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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 17:39:02 2016
    Hello Joe!

    Feb 21 11:01 2016, Joe Delahaye wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103

    Seems to be a manually assigned address.

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef

    Assigned by SLAAC

    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . .
    . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9

    Additional address assigned by Privacy Extensions.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:14/5 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 10:57:18 2016
    Hello Joe.

    Replying to a msg dated 21 Feb 16 11:01, from you to Michiel van der Vlist.


    What OS and version are you using? Older versions of Windows don't support
    Ipv6 as easily as the more recent versions.



    Jeff

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Sun Feb 21 13:00:52 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Markus Reschke to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 17:39:02

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103

    Seems to be a manually assigned address.

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef

    Assigned by SLAAC

    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . .
    . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9

    Additional address assigned by Privacy Extensions.

    From my TP-Link C8 router IPv6 Status


    LAN
    IPv6 Address Assign Type:
    DHCPv6 Server

    IPv6 Address:
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6/64

    Link-local Address:
    fe80::62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6/64

    in the setup I have this

    Get IPv6 Address Way: Get IPv6 prefix delegation

    IPv6 Address Assign Type: DHCPv6 Server


    So no SLAAC configured
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Jeff Smith on Sun Feb 21 13:01:52 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Jeff Smith to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 10:57:18

    What OS and version are you using? Older versions of Windows don't support Ipv6 as easily as the more recent versions.


    Windows 10 Home on the bbs machine. The latest updates too.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 21 13:42:29 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Joe Delahaye to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 21 2016 11:01:41

    When calling out to me it presents:
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:5ca2:8378:ffe0:6977, but it does not answer at
    that address, so that may be a temporary privacy extension address.

    I dont know how to assign the IPv6 address to a specific computer in the
    I just did an Ipconfig on the bbs system and here is what I got.

    Figured that one out, but it made no difference



    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9

    That temp address is what shows when I go to IPV6-test.com, as what my address is.
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 19:25:18 2016
    Hello Joe!

    Feb 21 13:00 2016, Joe Delahaye wrote to Markus Reschke:


    From my TP-Link C8 router IPv6 Status

    LAN
    IPv6 Address Assign Type:
    DHCPv6 Server

    IPv6 Address:
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6/64

    Link-local Address:
    fe80::62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6/64

    in the setup I have this

    Get IPv6 Address Way: Get IPv6 prefix delegation

    IPv6 Address Assign Type: DHCPv6 Server

    I see. But there's something fishy. Your PC's link-local address is fe80::f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef and I missed the point that the assumed modified EUI-64 doesn't start with 02 and the middle part isn't ff:fe. The same with your router's link-local address. An automatic link-local address should be based on the modified EUI-64 format of the MAC address. Of course you can configure it also manually. Another point is that the interface parts of the link-local address and the DHCPv6 assigned address are the same. I haven't seen that yet. Do the MAC addresses of your PC and router start with 00?

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 19:55:12 2016
    Hello Joe!

    Feb 21 19:25 2016, Markus Reschke wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    Link-local Address:
    fe80::62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6/64

    ff:fe. The same with your router's link-local address. An automatic

    I stand corrected. The router's link-local address is fine. The MAC address is 60:e3:27:39:46:d6.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Markus Reschke on Sun Feb 21 16:09:06 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Markus Reschke to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 19:25:18

    I see. But there's something fishy. Your PC's link-local address is fe80::f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef and I missed the point that the assumed modified EUI-64 doesn't start with 02 and the middle part isn't ff:fe. The same with your router's link-local address. An automatic link-local address should be based on the modified EUI-64 format of the MAC address. Of course you can configure it also manually. Another point is that the interface parts of the link-local address and the DHCPv6 assigned address are the same. I haven't seen
    that yet. Do the MAC addresses of your PC and router start with 00?

    The BBS mac address starts with 6c and the router starts with 60

    I had to fight for a long time to even get it to work. Started with a C7 router, and that worked finally after several months of trying and getting special beta updates from TP-Link.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 22:57:59 2016
    Hello Joe,

    On Sunday February 21 2016 13:42, you wrote to me:

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef

    That on works:

    + 22:57 [1040] call to 1:249/303@fidonet
    22:57 [1040] trying 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef [2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef]...
    22:57 [1040] connected
    + 22:57 [1040] outgoing session with 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef:24554
    - 22:57 [1040] OPT CRAM-MD5-23ce61fef25f7c0cf8565609f01744ee
    + 22:57 [1040] Remote requests MD mode
    - 22:57 [1040] SYS The Lion's Den



    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . :
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9

    That temp address is what shows when I go to IPV6-test.com, as what my address is.

    You have privacy extensions enabled. A temporary IPv6 address is assigned for outgoing connections. So thatis what IPV6-test.com shouws, because that is the address used to connect to the IPV6-test.com website.

    Systems calling you should use the permanent adress and so that is the one that you should advertise in de the nodelist.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 23:21:46 2016
    Hello Joe,

    Sunday February 21 2016 22:57, I wrote to you:

    Systems calling you should use the permanent adress and so that is the
    one that you should advertise in de the nodelist.

    Hmmm. wait ... 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef /is/ the address advertised in the nodelist. Odd. It didn't work a coiple of days ago, but now it workd again...

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 08:52:00 2016
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    The odd thing is that it is not the prefix that has changed, only the suffix. So it is a problem local to your system.

    Sounds like privacy extensions.

    I dont know how to assign the IPv6 address to a specific computer in
    the system. Unlike the IPv4 setup in the router, there is nothing like that in the v6 setup. I also have no idea how to do so on the computer

    Most routers offer stateless autoconfiguration - they advertise the prefix and the devices themselves work out their own IPv6 addresses within that prefix, so there's nothing to configure in the router.

    itself. There was a time I could assign a permananent IP in the networking setup, but I dont know if the same can be done with the
    IPv6.

    Yes, modern OSs allow you to allocate a static IPv6 address. I've done it in both Windows and Linux.

    I just did an Ipconfig on the bbs system and here is what I got.

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:a000:54::103
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:b8c6:4bed:d879:d6a9
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef%6
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::62e3:27ff:fe39:46d6%6

    You're using Windows, so you'll need to go to the properties for the network adapter, click on the IPv6 item in the list, then click the properties button, which will open a dialog box that will allow you to manually configure an IPv6 address and DNS servers.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 21 19:07:11 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 22:57:59

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
    2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef


    That on works:

    OK, unless the nodelist is the same already, I will change it tonight.


    That temp address is what shows when I go to IPV6-test.com, as what
    my address is.

    You have privacy extensions enabled. A temporary IPv6 address is assigned for outgoing connections. So thatis what IPV6-test.com shouws, because that is the address used to connect to the IPV6-test.com website.


    Must be default then. I have not done anything, except that router restart. I would not even have any idea on how to enable or disable that. Nothing on the router that I can see, nor anything on the ethernet card setup

    Systems calling you should use the permanent adress and so that is the one that
    you should advertise in de the nodelist.


    Will do. Turns out that it was the same as I already had in the nodelist.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 21 19:10:43 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 23:21:46

    Hmmm. wait ... 2607:f2c0:f00e:4200:f9e0:b9ff:6166:c8ef /is/ the address advertised in the nodelist. Odd. It didn't work a coiple of days ago, but now it workd again...


    Last Thursday, I apparently had several consecutive power outages. I was not home, but my grand daughter informed me. Some of the clocks needed to be reset, so I know power was out. I have a UPS, but I think that the router is not plugged into that due to lack of connectors :(

    The power outage was responsible for loss of IPv6 in the first place, I think. Resetting the router, got it back.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Tony Langdon on Sun Feb 21 19:14:00 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ig
    By: Tony Langdon to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 2016 08:52:00

    You're using Windows, so you'll need to go to the properties for the network adapter, click on the IPv6 item in the list, then click the properties button, which will open a dialog box that will allow you to manually configure an IPv6 address and DNS servers.

    Yes, I went searching after writing that. Went through the steps, inserted all the info, and saved it. When I went back to look, it appeared to be gone, except for the gateway info. Even the the choice had been returned to auto assign. So I deleted what was left and went back to the way it was. Strange. --- SBBSecho 2.32-Win32
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 12:40:00 2016
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Yes, I went searching after writing that. Went through the steps, inserted all the info, and saved it. When I went back to look, it appeared to be gone, except for the gateway info. Even the the choice
    had been returned to auto assign. So I deleted what was left and went back to the way it was. Strange. --- SBBSecho 2.32-Win32

    Very strange, it worked for me. I haven't set this PC up with a static IP (no need), but the Windows PC in the shack has a static IP.
    ... I strive for perfection, what I get is reality.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Tony Langdon on Sun Feb 21 21:36:59 2016
    Re: This happens when ISPs ig
    By: Tony Langdon to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 2016 12:40:00

    Yes, I went searching after writing that. Went through the steps,
    inserted all the info, and saved it. When I went back to look, it
    appeared to be gone, except for the gateway info. Even the the
    choice had been returned to auto assign. So I deleted what was left
    and went back to the way it was. Strange. --- SBBSecho 2.32-Win32

    Very strange, it worked for me. I haven't set this PC up with a static IP (no need), but the Windows PC in the shack has a static IP.

    It is always possible of course that I missed a step :). didnt press the OK or whatever properly and then went on. I may try it again later.

    ... I strive for perfection, what I get is reality.

    Been there, done that :)
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 14:40:00 2016
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Very strange, it worked for me. I haven't set this PC up with a static IP (no need), but the Windows PC in the shack has a static IP.

    It is always possible of course that I missed a step :). didnt press
    the OK or whatever properly and then went on. I may try it again
    later.

    Good luck, hope it works this time. :)

    ... I strive for perfection, what I get is reality.

    Been there, done that :)

    :D
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  • From Jeff Smith@1:14/5 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 16:25:56 2016
    Hello Joe.

    21 Feb 16 13:01, you wrote to me:

    Re: This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6
    By: Jeff Smith to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 21 2016 10:57:18

    What OS and version are you using? Older versions of Windows
    don't support Ipv6 as easily as the more recent versions.


    Windows 10 Home on the bbs machine. The latest updates too.


    The only Windows version I had problems setting it up to use IPv6
    was 2003 Server but I got it to work. Newer versions and Linux were
    setup to use IPv6 by default. Just specify the static IPv6 address,
    the subnet prefix length, and the default gateway in your adapter
    settings. Or use DHCP if an address gets assigned automatically.


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    Jeff

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Mar 2 23:20:14 2016
    Hi,

    On 2016-02-17 17:08:40, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:
    about: "This happens when ISPs ignore IPv6":

    MvdV> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw

    Hmmm... "This video has been removed by the user"... Did I miss much? :-/

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Mar 3 07:46:46 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Wilfred!

    02 Mar 2016 23:20:14, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw
    Hmmm... "This video has been removed by the user"...
    Did I miss much? :-/

    Yes: http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4 (will remain there for a day or two).


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 3 20:48:00 2016
    Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

    Yes: http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4 (will remain there for a day or two).

    Thanks. :)
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 3 11:32:44 2016
    Hi Alexey,

    On 2016-03-03 07:46:46, you wrote to me:

    Hmmm... "This video has been removed by the user"...
    Did I miss much? :-/

    Yes: http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4
    (will remain there for a day or two).

    Thanks!

    # wget http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4 --2016-03-03 11:31:59-- http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4
    Resolving gremlin.ru (gremlin.ru)... 2a01:4f8:131:32aa::1000, 46.4.14.152 Connecting to gremlin.ru (gremlin.ru)|2a01:4f8:131:32aa::1000|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 21761708 (21M) [video/mp4]
    ...

    It seems apropriate it was transfered using IPv6 ! ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Mar 3 11:20:20 2016
    Hello Wilfred!

    02 Mar 2016 23:20, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40xp2ri1Rw
    Hmmm... "This video has been removed by the user"... Did I miss much? :-/

    uuencode it here :=)


    Regards Benny

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 3 11:21:54 2016
    Hello Alexey!

    03 Mar 2016 07:46, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4 (will remain there for a day or two).

    so we all can now put it on youtube to keep it there ? :=)


    Regards Benny

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Mar 3 16:32:48 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

    03 Mar 2016 11:21:54, you wrote to me:

    http://gremlin.ru/tmp/The_sad_tale_of_a_ISP_that_didnt_deploy_IPv6.mp4
    (will remain there for a day or two).
    so we all can now put it on youtube to keep it there ? :=)

    You may do with it anything as you please, as I've dowloaded it for free and freely (and that's the only option for me to watch video on youtube: download them and feed to /usr/bin/mplayer).

    Also, if someone of native English speakers would make a script of it (text + time marks), I'd be just happy to see it (for further translation).


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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Mar 7 01:09:10 2016
    Hello Wilfred!

    03 Mar 2016 11:32, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    It seems apropriate it was transfered using IPv6 ! ;)

    lol


    Regards Benny

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Mar 7 17:15:00 2016
    Benny Pedersen wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

    03 Mar 2016 11:32, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    It seems apropriate it was transfered using IPv6 ! ;)

    Well, I chose my ISP because they were both reputable and the only ones offering native IPv6 at the time. :) I've been running native IPv6 for 5 years now. :)
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tony Langdon on Mon Mar 7 10:22:55 2016
    Hi Tony,

    On 2016-03-07 17:15:00, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    03 Mar 2016 11:32, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    It seems apropriate it was transfered using IPv6 ! ;)

    Well, I chose my ISP because they were both reputable and the only ones offering native IPv6 at the time. :) I've been running native IPv6 for 5 years now. :)

    Than you are number 43... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Mar 7 13:37:17 2016
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Monday March 07 2016 10:22, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Well, I chose my ISP because they were both reputable and the
    only ones offering native IPv6 at the time. :) I've been running
    native IPv6 for 5 years now. :)

    Than you are number 43... ;)

    Indeed.


    Cheers, Michiel

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