• Outage

    From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to All on Sun Nov 20 12:08:40 2016
    Hi All!

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE ;))

    Sometimes (much) later there will be an additional outage when I move my Fido node to a virtual server. (v4/v6 addresses already fixed, fido SW compiler, I "just" need to transfer the config, scripts and msgbase)

    Just that you are aware.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 12:23:00 2016
    Hi Richard!

    Nov 20 12:08 2016, Richard Menedetter wrote to All:

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE ;))

    In case you need a secondary nameserver, please let me know. IPv4 and IPv6 of course ;)

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Markus Reschke on Sun Nov 20 12:30:34 2016
    Hi Markus!

    20 Nov 2016 12:23, from Markus Reschke -> Richard Menedetter:

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE
    ;))
    In case you need a secondary nameserver, please let me know. IPv4 and
    IPv6 of course ;)

    Thanx for the offer.
    I may take you up to it.

    It seems he.net only makes their nameservers authotrative, after they are delegated.
    And my NIC refuses to delegate until the NS are authorative ;))

    Just asked them to delegate anyhow ... let's see what comes back.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 12:26:55 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Sunday November 20 2016 12:08, you wrote to All:

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE ;))

    You owe us an explanation. ;-)

    What exactly are you changing? Just the host name of your system or are you switching DNS providers? And how does that help in getting the T-shirt?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 12:36:36 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    20 Nov 2016 12:26, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Richard Menedetter:

    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE
    ;))
    You owe us an explanation. ;-)

    ;)

    What exactly are you changing? Just the host name of your system or
    are you switching DNS providers? And how does that help in getting the T-shirt?

    I am switching the DNS provider.
    The current one does not offer IPv6 NSes, hence the lack of T-Shirt. (zoneedit.com -> he.net)

    In a second step I will switch over fido.ricsi.priv.at to vserv.ricsi.priv.at (or more accurately change the v4/v6 address of fido to match vserv).
    But this needs a bit more motivation gathering on my side, as I need to configure the already compiled packags there (binkd, HPT, Golded+) and to migrate some scripts and the JAM Msgbase there.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Hotel: A place you give good dollars for bad quarters (2:310/31)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Markus Reschke on Sun Nov 20 13:50:18 2016
    Hi Markus!

    20 Nov 2016 12:23, from Markus Reschke -> Richard Menedetter:

    In case you need a secondary nameserver, please let me know. IPv4 and
    IPv6 of course ;)

    short Update.
    My NIC was quit nice, and they enabled the NSes (which were by then not authorative).
    I pressed a button on the he.net page, and all is fine now.

    whois pointing to nsx.he.net
    and nsx.he.net is autorative now for my domain.

    All looks good ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 14:06:36 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Sunday November 20 2016 12:36, you wrote to me:

    What exactly are you changing? Just the host name of your system
    or are you switching DNS providers? And how does that help in
    getting the T-shirt?

    I am switching the DNS provider.
    The current one does not offer IPv6 NSes, hence the lack of T-Shirt. (zoneedit.com -> he.net)

    Aha. You DID tell them why you are taking your bussines elswehere did you? I left starthosting for lack of IPv6 support. I told them why and made sure they got the message.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 14:40:20 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    20 Nov 2016 14:06, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Richard Menedetter:

    I am switching the DNS provider.
    The current one does not offer IPv6 NSes, hence the lack of
    T-Shirt. (zoneedit.com -> he.net)
    Aha. You DID tell them why you are taking your bussines elswehere did
    you? I left starthosting for lack of IPv6 support. I told them why and made sure they got the message.

    I have asked some times about IPv6.
    The answer was always the same wishy washy ... yes ... in the future ...

    Regarding my business, I am using the free service from both companies.
    So apart from user counts, I did not much contribute to their material wellbeing.

    And I was quit happy with zoneedit.com ... apart from IPv6.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Words are not food, though sometimes we must eat them (2:310/31)
  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 14:22:50 2016
    Hi Richard!

    Nov 20 13:50 2016, Richard Menedetter wrote to Markus Reschke:

    short Update.
    My NIC was quit nice, and they enabled the NSes (which were by then
    not authorative).
    I pressed a button on the he.net page, and all is fine now.

    Lucky day. Most NICs test for authoritative nameservers as a requirement for updates. And this can't be circumvented because it's automated that way. And some NICs have obsolete requirements regarding the IP addresses of the nameservers. Once I tried to explain some basics in network engineering and high availability to DeNIC, and that their address requirements for nameservers also violate RIPE's assignment policies. They didn't get it and their reasoning was totally <facepalm>.

    Each .de TLD has to have two authoritative nameservers at least. And those nameservers are required to have IPv4 addresses in different /24s. The reason for that is to make sure, that one nameserver is reachable in case of a partial network outage. Small providers simply put both namservers in the same LAN segment, just with addresses in two /24s. DeNIC's requirement was met, but the purpose defeated. And I was not allowed to use two addresses in the same /24 in a high availability data center, each nameserver having two uplinks and running OSPF. We even ran anycast back then across all data centers in the EU for some services. Too advanced for some people ;)

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Markus Reschke on Sun Nov 20 15:11:08 2016
    Hi Markus!

    20 Nov 2016 14:22, from Markus Reschke -> Richard Menedetter:

    My NIC was quit nice, and they enabled the NSes (which were by
    then not authorative).
    Lucky day.

    Indeed ;)

    Most NICs test for authoritative nameservers as a requirement for
    updates. And this can't be circumvented because it's
    automated that way.

    They did test, but after I explained, they have manually overridden the process.
    Lucky me ;)

    And I was not allowed to use two addresses in the same /24 in a high availability data center, each nameserver having two uplinks and
    running OSPF. We even ran anycast back then across all data centers in
    the EU for some services. Too advanced for some people ;)

    That is so advanced that it is voodoo to them ;)
    Indeed sad.

    CU, Ricsi

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    * Origin: Why are there Interstate highways in Hawaii? (2:310/31)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 15:26:03 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Sunday November 20 2016 14:40, you wrote to me:

    Aha. You DID tell them why you are taking your bussines elswehere
    did you? I left starthosting for lack of IPv6 support. I told
    them why and made sure they got the message.

    I have asked some times about IPv6.
    The answer was always the same wishy washy ... yes ... in the future
    ...

    Where did I hear that before? ;-)

    Regarding my business, I am using the free service from both
    companies. So apart from user counts, I did not much contribute to
    their material wellbeing.

    Ah, it was a free service. That makes a difference. I used a paid service. When you pay for something you can demand a minimum l;evel of service. So I told them their IPv6 service was insufficient, told them what was missing and gave them a deadline. A very generous deadline. And when they did nothing, I gave them another three month. And when they stiil had done nothingm, I walked away.

    And I was quit happy with zoneedit.com ... apart from IPv6.

    I am in the same position with Ziggo, my ISP. Problem is they have a semi-momopoly. The old copper pairs here in the street just can not offer the same bandwidth via dsl as DOCSIS over the green coax cable can. I have to wait for fibre...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 09:29:50 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 20 Nov 16 12:08, Richard Menedetter wrote to All:

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE ;))

    I still have to do the same one of these days. I'm still stuck at the level prior to sage. :(

    Sometimes (much) later there will be an additional outage when I move
    my Fido node to a virtual server. (v4/v6 addresses already fixed, fido
    SW compiler, I "just" need to transfer the config, scripts and
    msgbase)

    Good luck, Risci. Hopefully the transition goes smoothly for you.

    + Origin: Hardware: The part you kick (2:310/31)

    I'm not going to admit how many times I've actually done this.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 16:30:00 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    Nov 20 15:26 2016, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    MvdV> Ah, it was a free service. That makes a difference. I used a paid
    MvdV> service. When you pay for something you can demand a minimum l;evel
    MvdV> of service. So I told them their IPv6 service was insufficient,
    MvdV> told them what was missing and gave them a deadline. A very
    MvdV> generous deadline. And when they did nothing, I gave them another
    MvdV> three month. And when they stiil had done nothingm, I walked away.

    Me too. I've asked two or three times and canceled the contract this year. The server was shut down a few days ago. The replacement at another hoster is faster, got more RAM and disk space and is a few bucks less :)

    MvdV> I am in the same position with Ziggo, my ISP. Problem is they have
    MvdV> a semi-momopoly. The old copper pairs here in the street just can
    MvdV> not offer the same bandwidth via dsl as DOCSIS over the green coax
    MvdV> cable can. I have to wait for fibre...

    ... if you live long enough to see that happen. The big telcos/cariers are clinging on their copper pairs or coax cables like drug addicts on meth. And the wireless world hops on to claim more frequency spectrum and to prepare the transition from voice to data. If you follow the news about Comcast, AT&T and the others in the US, you know how they are fighting against FTTH and municipal fiber projects. It's the same here, but not so drastic, and we also got much more competitive prices. Fortunately there are some sunny fiber islands.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Nov 20 16:58:18 2016
    Hi Nicholas!

    20 Nov 2016 09:29, from Nicholas Boel -> Richard Menedetter:

    Just to inform you that there will be an outage of my system.
    I will switch DNSes in order to get the IPv6 Sage T-Shirt from HE
    ;))
    I still have to do the same one of these days. I'm still stuck at the level prior to sage. :(

    Well ... the DNS transition went wonderfully :)

    But I have T-Shirt related issues ;)
    It tries to resolve domain/ipv6 now ...
    Somehow it messed up ... (I think I used that many years ago for a HTTPD test)

    In the worst case I have to reset the test and start over ... no worries

    Sometimes (much) later there will be an additional outage when I
    move my Fido node to a virtual server. (v4/v6 addresses already
    fixed, fido SW compiler, I "just" need to transfer the config,
    scripts and msgbase)
    Good luck, Risci. Hopefully the transition goes smoothly for you.

    I have to plan this very well, as I need to transition everything in one go ... do not feel like it today ...

    + Origin: Hardware: The part you kick (2:310/31)
    I'm not going to admit how many times I've actually done this.

    ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Air bags...Inflation we can live with! (2:310/31)
  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 17:26:42 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    This might be interesting for others on how to do the right thing on the long term regarding fiber. It's also a brief story about Internet in my small town.

    I'm living a small town in an agricultural region about 40km north of Frankfurt/Main. When DSL came along, it was clear that it won't happen soon here. Since other towns in the area had the same issue a project run by a few companies started to deploy WLAN. It's called DSL-on-air, was (is?) quite expensive and all customers have to share one low-speed uplink. The design is fairly simple. A WLAN PtP uplink to some town with DSL and a few APs distributed across the local town. The main AP is just a few houses away from me. IIRC, the owner of that house got free access for providing location and power. DSL-on-air uses standard APs with a modified firmware for the customers, who had to pay a hefty installation fee. Just as a funny side note, after a while Deutsche Telekom sent some DSL flyers to everone in my town. But it took about 10 years until they've delivered.

    Since I was involved in WLAN/WMAN product evaluation and feasibility tests at that time, I knew at the spot that I wouldn't join DSL-on-air. Deutsche Telekom introduced a low-speed DSL version called DSL light, which was 386kbps downstream, to increase their DSL reach. I knew that a neighboring town just got a DSLAM, and that my neighbor got her ISDN routed via that other town for capacity reasons. Also that the other town was within the supported range of DSL light. So we asked Deutsche Telekom for DSL light. Bingo! I've added an AP as WLAN bridge for me and we had DSL. It must have been the first DSL in my town.

    A few years later our government, also the local one, started initiatives to get internet access to rural areas, i.e. subsidies. The local municipal requested some subsidies to get DSL to the small towns without offical DSL access. The deal with Deutsche Telekom was to deploy a DSLAM per town. That means also fiber between the towns for backhauling the DSLAMs. My town extended that deal to three DSLAMs to provide everyone with the fastest DSL possible. The town's part of that deal was to lay the fiber ducts. So the town asked for support in form of labor, machinery or money. Now comes the important point which will haunt my town in future: fiber politics. The town's officials were so keen on the fast DSL, that they forgot about a very important thing while negotiating the deal. The fiber duct the town's people put into the street is owned by Deutsche Telekom. So any new provider, which might come, is forced to buy from Deutsche Telekom or lay own ducts. If they would have made a contract about providing usage of the duct to Deutsche Telekom for free for unlimited time, the town could also simply provide usage to another telco, i.e. decreasing the required investment for that telco and attacting competition.

    So we get back to the fiber problem. From my experience we'll only get FTEH (E = every), when it's done by the municipals, implying that the municipal owns the ducts and the fiber. A few towns recognized that and rolled out their citizen fiber. The result is fast Internet access and very competitive prices. A telco has only to invest in connecting the central office, which is cheap compared to also taking care about connecting customers via own fiber.

    In the US telcos are afraid of this and lobbying politicans to pass laws prohibiting municipal fiber networks, as it would create competition. Because we got more competition in the EU (enforced by regulation), telcos here are more likely supporting municipal networks, as they see the benefits. They don't have to invest huge sums, while still making profit using the municipal networks as last mile to the customer. There are already a few great examples of that team work. If you live in one of the right towns you could simply change your provider within minutes via accessing the municipal's customer support web page. I'm not kidding. This is real! And I hope this becomes the new standard.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Markus Reschke on Sun Nov 20 19:05:12 2016
    Hi Markus!

    20 Nov 2016 17:26, from Markus Reschke -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    Deutsche Telekom introduced a low-speed DSL version called DSL light, which was 386kbps downstream, to increase their DSL reach.

    Out of curiosity ... was this based on RE-ADSL?
    Reach Enhanced ADSL?
    As far as I remember it uses less frquency band, as the higher frequencies are attenuated faster by distance, and they used the same power over less frequ bins.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 19:22:20 2016
    Hi Richard!

    Nov 20 19:05 2016, Richard Menedetter wrote to Markus Reschke:

    Deutsche Telekom introduced a low-speed DSL version called DSL light,
    which was 386kbps downstream, to increase their DSL reach.

    Out of curiosity ... was this based on RE-ADSL?
    Reach Enhanced ADSL?

    AFAIK, no. Just using less spectrum (lower frequencies) to increase the reach. But that's limited by Annex B. BTW, SDSL and G.SHDSL are more suitable for extended reach applications.

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 12:06:10 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 20 Nov 16 16:58, Richard Menedetter wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    I still have to do the same one of these days. I'm still stuck at
    the level prior to sage. :(

    Well ... the DNS transition went wonderfully :)

    This conversation has inspired me to check into it myself.

    But I have T-Shirt related issues ;)
    It tries to resolve domain/ipv6 now ...
    Somehow it messed up ... (I think I used that many years ago for a
    HTTPD test)

    In the worst case I have to reset the test and start over ... no
    worries

    Currently, my DNS provider's nameservers have IPv4 glue only. And with PremiumDNS if I go with private nameservers, the PremiumDNS I paid for isn't used. So my best bet is probably to take a look at another (hopefully free?), non-permanent option that I can use quickly just to make he.net happy.

    Was that Markus offering up some free nameservers? :)

    I have to plan this very well, as I need to transition everything in
    one go ... do not feel like it today ...

    Agreed. When I did so it took the better part of half the day to make sure everything was functioning properly. I'm currently out with a work injury (shattered my heel bone) so I had the time. Had I been still working, it wouldn't have gotten done yet, much like your case. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Nov 20 20:28:18 2016
    Hi Nicholas!

    20 Nov 2016 12:06, from Nicholas Boel -> Richard Menedetter:

    Well ... the DNS transition went wonderfully :)
    This conversation has inspired me to check into it myself.

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 11:25:16
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch run: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Achievment unlocked ;))

    In the worst case I have to reset the test and start over ... no
    worries

    That is what I ended up doing.

    Currently, my DNS provider's nameservers have IPv4 glue only. And with PremiumDNS if I go with private nameservers, the PremiumDNS I paid for isn't used. So my best bet is probably to take a look at another (hopefully free?), non-permanent option that I can use quickly just to make he.net happy.
    Was that Markus offering up some free nameservers? :)

    Yes.
    But I used the he.net free DNS, works great ;)

    I'm currently out with a work injury (shattered my heel bone) so I had
    the time.

    Hope it is healing nicely!

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Two dumbs; know too much, know too little! (2:310/31)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 13:58:20 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 20 Nov 16 20:28, Richard Menedetter wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    Well ... the DNS transition went wonderfully :)
    This conversation has inspired me to check into it myself.

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 11:25:16
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch run: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Achievment unlocked ;))

    Nice! Congrats!

    In the worst case I have to reset the test and start over ... no
    worries

    That is what I ended up doing.

    Currently, my DNS provider's nameservers have IPv4 glue only. And
    with PremiumDNS if I go with private nameservers, the PremiumDNS
    I paid for isn't used. So my best bet is probably to take a look
    at another (hopefully free?), non-permanent option that I can use
    quickly just to make he.net happy. Was that Markus offering up
    some free nameservers? :)

    Yes.
    But I used the he.net free DNS, works great ;)

    Oh you did? I may have to do that as a side project (and backup) to my paid-for DNS then.. Thanks for the heads up!

    Hope it is healing nicely!

    Only time will tell, unfortunately.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Nov 20 21:35:36 2016
    Hi Nicholas!

    20 Nov 2016 13:58, from Nicholas Boel -> Richard Menedetter:

    But I used the he.net free DNS, works great ;)
    Oh you did? I may have to do that as a side project (and backup) to my paid-for DNS then.. Thanks for the heads up!

    Only issue I had is that they only switch the DNS servers authorative, when you delegate the domain.
    And usually the domain is only delegated when the DNSes are authorative.

    I was lucky that they agreed to bypass usual procedure ...

    Hope it is healing nicely!
    Only time will tell, unfortunately.

    Holding my fingers crossed!

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Not as violent as promised, but I like it anyway. (2:310/31)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 14:55:46 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 20 Nov 16 21:35, Richard Menedetter wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    But I used the he.net free DNS, works great ;)

    Oh you did? I may have to do that as a side project (and backup)
    to my paid-for DNS then.. Thanks for the heads up!

    Only issue I had is that they only switch the DNS servers authorative, when you delegate the domain. And usually the domain is only delegated when the DNSes are authorative.

    I had no issues at all. I added my DNS to dns.he.net and it told me to delegate ns(1-5).he.net, so I headed over to my registrar and did so. Once that went through (took maybe 30 seconds), I had to create an AAAA record on he.net for my domain, and then I was able to complete the sage test!

    I see your name on the Last 10 list, and I am 3 people after you. :)

    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 12:53:40
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch fun: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    After this I went back to my registrar and set everything back to their standard nameservers so I could re-enable my PremiumDNS features that I paid for (they only support premium services on their own nameservers).

    While I've finally finished the sage test and am getting a t-shirt, I don't think I'm quite done yet. I may end up transferring my domain to a service that does indeed provide both IPv4 and IPv6 standard nameservers soon now that I've realized what my current DNS hosting facility isn't providing me with!

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Nov 20 22:26:52 2016
    Hi Nicholas!

    20 Nov 2016 14:55, from Nicholas Boel -> Richard Menedetter:

    I had no issues at all. I added my DNS to dns.he.net

    This is what I did not do :)
    I did not think of adding the existing ones ...

    and then I was able to complete the sage test!
    I see your name on the Last 10 list, and I am 3 people after you. :)
    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 12:53:40
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch fun: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Congratulations!

    After this I went back to my registrar and set everything back to
    their standard nameservers so I could re-enable my PremiumDNS features that I paid for (they only support premium services on their own nameservers).

    What exactly are the premium features?
    Just out of curiosity.

    While I've finally finished the sage test and am getting a t-shirt, I don't think I'm quite done yet. I may end up transferring my domain to
    a service that does indeed provide both IPv4 and IPv6 standard
    nameservers soon now that I've realized what my current DNS hosting facility isn't providing me with!

    Indeed ... voting with your feat is a good idea!

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: I'm the one your mother warned you about... (2:310/31)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 22:43:52 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Sunday November 20 2016 20:28, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 11:25:16
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch run: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Congratulations.

    My experience is that these batches are not run very often. I had to wait more than two month IIRC. So have patience.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 23:37:50 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    20 Nov 2016 22:43, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Richard Menedetter:

    My tshirt order status
    Congratulations.

    Thanx

    My experience is that these batches are not run very often.
    I had to wait more than two month IIRC. So have patience.

    Ahh ... compared to the many years I did not finish the test, that is nothing ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: <insert scene of unimaginable violence here> (2:310/31)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Nov 20 23:44:51 2016
    Hello Nicholas,

    On Sunday November 20 2016 14:55, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 12:53:40
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch fun: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Congralations to you too!


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Nov 20 18:28:48 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 20 Nov 16 22:26, Richard Menedetter wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    After this I went back to my registrar and set everything back to
    their standard nameservers so I could re-enable my PremiumDNS
    features that I paid for (they only support premium services on
    their own nameservers).

    What exactly are the premium features?
    Just out of curiosity.

    Nothing major - some extra ddos protection at the dns level as well as nameservers that get queried twice as much as the basic ones, and it's less than $5/year. So I figured why not?

    I most likely wouldn't miss it either way. And transferring domains gives you another year added on to your current plan for less money, usually. :)

    IPv4 and IPv6 standard nameservers soon now that I've realized
    what my current DNS hosting facility isn't providing me with!

    Indeed ... voting with your feat is a good idea!

    Agreed!

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 20 18:33:54 2016
    Hello Michiel,

    On 20 Nov 16 23:44, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    Last batch fun: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    Congralations to you too!

    Thanks! And as Ricsi said in a previous message, the wait won't be nearly as bad as how long it finally took me to finish the sage portion of the test. I left it at guru for well over 2 years without even looking into it much further. :/

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360.8110 to Richard Menedetter on Mon Nov 21 19:09:50 2016

    Hello Richard!

    20 Nov 16 20:28, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Address Verification Completed: 2016-11-20 11:25:16
    Awaiting next batch
    Last batch run: Tue Nov 1 16:05:36 2016

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Shipped

    ;D

    'Tommi

    --- he.net Sage
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Nov 22 01:37:14 2016
    Hi Tommi!

    21 Nov 2016 19:09, from Tommi Koivula -> Richard Menedetter:

    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    BTW
    My tshirt order status
    Shipped

    ;))
    Some of us take longer ... nut we get there.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- GoldED+/LNX
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