• IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.

    From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to All on Thu Jan 24 21:29:46 2013
    Hello All!

    I was curious how IPv6 is doing in Fidonet.

    My first action was, to extract all the uniqe hostnames in the
    Nodelist, in this case the Dailylist of today.

    For every hostname DNS lookup I recorded which names returned an IPv6
    address. In total ther were 20 addresses, but two were of the same system.
    For the 19 Systems that remained, I performed a Binkp poll, as an
    elaborate way to check if the system supported Binkp on IPv6.
    When no connection is established, the IPv4 address is tried.

    5 Systems failed or refused connection on IPv4 and IPv6
    10 Systems failed on IPv6, but connected on IPv4
    3 Systems connected on IPv6.

    As one of the three systems that responded on IPv6 connects to my node
    using IPv6 several times a day, I think I can add 1 to the three above.

    My conclusion is, that 4 uniqe nodes are currently IPv6 ready for Binkp.

    I would like to apologise, to those, whose systems I have been pestering
    with empty polls.

    Kees

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Jan 24 22:59:23 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-01-24 21:29:46, Kees van Eeten wrote to All:
    about: "IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.":

    3 Systems connected on IPv6.

    As one of the three systems that responded on IPv6 connects to my node
    using IPv6 several times a day, I think I can add 1 to the three above.

    My conclusion is, that 4 uniqe nodes are currently IPv6 ready for Binkp.

    Who are the other two? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jan 24 23:05:58 2013
    Hello Wilfred!

    24 Jan 13 22:59, you wrote to me:

    My conclusion is, that 4 uniqe nodes are currently IPv6 ready for
    Binkp.

    Who are the other two? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    The two experts on the matter. Michiel Broek and Andre Grueneberg

    Kees

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Jan 24 23:18:17 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-01-24 23:05:58, Kees van Eeten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.":

    Who are the other two? ;)

    The two experts on the matter. Michiel Broek and Andre Grueneberg

    I could have guessed that. I have had IPv6 connections with both of them... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jan 24 23:34:58 2013
    Hello Wilfred!

    24 Jan 13 23:18, you wrote to me:

    The two experts on the matter. Michiel Broek and Andre Grueneberg

    I could have guessed that. I have had IPv6 connections with both of them... ;)

    looking at the version numbers, another four systems could have been
    able to answer the IPv6 call.

    Kees

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  • From Andre Grueneberg@2:2411/525 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Jan 25 00:04:16 2013
    Hi Kees

    Kees van Eeten schrieb:

    My conclusion is, that 4 uniqe nodes are currently IPv6 ready for
    Binkp.
    Who are the other two? ;)
    The two experts on the matter. Michiel Broek and Andre Grueneberg

    *phew* I was almost afraid, I wouldn't make it for some unknown reason. ;)
    Are you going to contact the others to check their systems?

    CU Andre E-Mail: andre@grueneberg.de
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Thu Jan 24 19:03:58 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to All on Thu Jan 24 2013 09:29 pm

    I would like to apologise, to those, whose systems I have been pestering with empty polls.

    I noticed you over here but had no idea what you were doing. Thanks for pointing out your reasoning, and it's no bother at all. :)

    I doubt you were able to connect via IPv6 here, even though I *do* in fact have a weak 6to4 setup here, but it only scores a 7 out of 10 on test-ipv6.com ..

    I do plan on setting up a he.net account shortly, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andre Grueneberg on Fri Jan 25 00:18:56 2013
    Hello Andre!

    25 Jan 13 00:04, you wrote to me:

    My conclusion is, that 4 uniqe nodes are currently IPv6 ready
    for Binkp.
    Who are the other two? ;)
    The two experts on the matter. Michiel Broek and Andre Grueneberg

    *phew* I was almost afraid, I wouldn't make it for some unknown reason. ;) Are you going to contact the others to check their systems?

    Well there were four more systems that used a Binkd.1.0.... version.
    I think the version change to 1.0 was because of the IPv6 functionality.
    If not, then it would be interesting to know in what subversion or build,
    IPv6 was intruduced.

    If people are interested in IPv6, they will probably read this echo and if
    they think, that they support IPv6, they can check their logs to see what
    type of connection 2:280/5003 made on 24 Jan 2013 between 17:30 and 20:00
    MET.

    If they want to test their system, they can always connect to your
    or my system or Wilfred van Velzen.

    I can imagine case where outgoing connections will work, but incoming
    connections have a problem.

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 25 13:38:06 2013
    Hello Nicholas!

    24 Jan 13 19:03, you wrote to me:

    I would like to apologise, to those, whose systems I have been
    pestering with empty polls.

    I noticed you over here but had no idea what you were doing. Thanks for pointing out your reasoning, and it's no bother at all. :)

    I wonder what you have noticed. I made a DNS request for bbs.pharcyde.org
    and got an alias for pharcyde.ath.cx.

    As that did not present an IPv6 adress, I made no further contact.

    I doubt you were able to connect via IPv6 here, even though I *do* in
    fact
    have a weak 6to4 setup here, but it only scores a 7 out of 10 on test-ipv6.com ..

    I do plan on setting up a he.net account shortly, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

    I have many roundtoit's in the drawer of my desk.

    Kees

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Jan 25 11:11:36 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 25 2013 01:38 pm

    I noticed you over here but had no idea what you were doing. Thanks
    for pointing out your reasoning, and it's no bother at all. :)

    I wonder what you have noticed. I made a DNS request for
    bbs.pharcyde.org and got an alias for pharcyde.ath.cx.

    Only that you connected to my binkd server. My domain points to a free dns domain, because the free dns can be updated instantly, whereas the paid-for domains seem to usually take an hour or so to update.

    Either way, when you hit my router is when you would have noticed IPv6 capabilities. Right now it is temporarily disabled until I setup a tunnel through he.net.

    I do plan on setting up a he.net account shortly, I just haven't
    gotten around to it yet.

    I have many roundtoit's in the drawer of my desk.

    If it were offered here by ANY ISP, I would definitely look into a native setup, but none of them here do, even though they were "huge supporters" of _both_ IPv6 days. The fact that they've all said "IPv6 will be available by this time" and it is well past that time for the 2 major ISPs here, I only have minimal ways to ensure I have it working. When ISPs here offer it natively, of course I will go that route, but who knows when that will be. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 25 21:17:38 2013
    Hello Nicholas!

    25 Jan 13 11:11, you wrote to me:

    Only that you connected to my binkd server. My domain points to a free dns

    What ever you call the box. I connected to your dns server.

    domain, because the free dns can be updated instantly, whereas the paid-for domains seem to usually take an hour or so to update.

    I know the trick.

    Either way, when you hit my router is when you would have noticed IPv6 capabilities.

    I do not think a dns query would notice.

    Kees

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  • From Bj÷rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 03:22:54 2013
    they think, that they support IPv6, they can check their logs to see what type of connection 2:280/5003 made on 24 Jan 2013 between 17:30 and 20:00 MET.

    Gotcha!

    = 24-Jan-2013 19:29:28 Address : 2:280/5003 2:280/0 2:280/53

    My system (including all six computers connected to internet here) score a perfect 10 on test-ipv6, but obviously Argus is not ready for it. :(

    Ping6-ing my address works -- but that of course is not much of a comfort...

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Fri Jan 25 21:48:33 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 25 2013 09:17 pm

    What ever you call the box. I connected to your dns server.

    After what I think is a successful he.net tunnel setup. I'm scoring a 9/10 on test-ipv6.com (only because my ISP doesn't support ipv6). If you would be so kind as to try again, you can *try* ipv6.pharcyde.org -- and if that doesn't work, 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78

    If the real IP works, then godaddy isn't taking care of my AAAA record. If that's the case, let me know and I'll look into it.

    Thanks for your continued interest in this, as it's actually motivating me over here as well. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 11:43:33 2013
    Hi,

    On 2013-01-25 21:48:33, Nicholas Boel wrote to Kees van Eeten:
    about: "IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.":

    After what I think is a successful he.net tunnel setup. I'm scoring a
    9/10 on test-ipv6.com (only because my ISP doesn't support ipv6). If
    you would be so kind as to try again, you can *try* ipv6.pharcyde.org
    -- and if that doesn't work, 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78

    Not a real binkd test, but it seems to work:

    # telnet ipv6.pharcyde.org binkp
    Trying 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78...
    Connected to ipv6.pharcyde.org.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    �.OPT CRAM-MD5-027e74ec5211769d7dff8dca938adbee�SYS The Pharcyde�ZYZ Nicholas Boel�LOC Pewaukee, WI�NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP�%TIME Sat, 26 Jan 2013 04:41:53 -0600�"VER binkd/1.1a-19/Linux binkp/1.1�� 1:154/10@fidonet 1:154/0@fidonet 46:1/100@agoranet 46:1/0@agoranet 77:1/130@scinet 77:77/2@scinet 169:1/108@battlnet 911:1262/1@zeronet


    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 13:24:52 2013
    Hello Nicholas!

    25 Jan 13 21:48, you wrote to me:

    After what I think is a successful he.net tunnel setup. I'm scoring a 9/10 on test-ipv6.com (only because my ISP doesn't support ipv6). If you would be so kind as to try again, you can *try* ipv6.pharcyde.org -- and if that doesn't work, 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78

    If the real IP works, then godaddy isn't taking care of my AAAA record. If that's the case, let me know and I'll look into it.

    Congratulations.

    Aapparently it works, Wilfred demonstrated a telnet to your binkp port.
    I let Binkd make a connection at 12:02 UTC. Yust before that I frightened
    Jim Kulwiki, as I made a mistake in what node to poll.
    I won't show a section of my logfile, as the log is on a different system.

    With the inside information that you have a IPv6 address, setting up
    Binkd to call on IPv6 first and fall back on IPv4 is easy.
    Just make a nodeline with the two hostnames separated by a ","

    It would be nice if bbs.pharcyde.org retured both, the IPv6 and the IPv4
    address.

    I have a similar setup as you do, altough I host my DNS service ofsite.
    As the ISP with the widest pipe, provides me with a dynamic address, I
    use the services of dyndns as a quick service, to adapt my IP address.
    fido.ddutch.nl is just a CNAME. My IPv6 connection is a tunnel on a
    narrow pipe to a different ISP.
    The service a dyndns allows for adding a IPv6 address to the same
    domain name. Using this service I now have the correct DNS response of
    IPv4 and IPv6 on one query.

    I encourage you to try something similar for your hostname, just to set
    the example. Otherwise there will be smart people who will wnat to introduce
    kludges for separate IPv6 entries in the nodelist.

    Thanks for your continued interest in this, as it's actually
    motivating me over here as well. :)

    Well apart from, that a nonlisted hostname has to be used, you are
    probably the first IPv6 Fidonet node in Z1.

    But you are not being loyal to your Zone, you are using Z2 software. ;)

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Björn Felten on Sat Jan 26 13:49:30 2013
    Hello Bj”rn!

    26 Jan 13 03:22, you wrote to me:

    Gotcha!

    = 24-Jan-2013 19:29:28 Address : 2:280/5003 2:280/0 2:280/53

    My system (including all six computers connected to internet here) score a perfect 10 on test-ipv6, but obviously Argus is not ready for it. :(

    Ping6-ing my address works -- but that of course is not much of a comfort...

    Yes, that is the same excuse Michiel gives me every time I bring op the
    subject. But as moderator of this Echo, he should not have one.

    Now someone from across the pond has beat you to it. ;)

    Kees

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  • From Andre Grueneberg@2:2411/525 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 20:33:32 2013
    Hi Kees

    Kees van Eeten schrieb:

    *phew* I was almost afraid, I wouldn't make it for some unknown
    reason. ;)
    Are you going to contact the others to check their systems?
    Well there were four more systems that used a Binkd.1.0....
    version. I think the version change to 1.0 was because of the
    IPv6 functionality. If not, then it would be interesting to know
    in what subversion or build, IPv6 was intruduced.

    I introduced IPv6 in binkd 1.0a-563 and the following commits ... see HISTORY file.
    Binkd got a 1.0 a while later, around June last year.

    I can imagine case where outgoing connections will work, but
    incoming connections have a problem.

    Of course -- I can also imagine situations where the OS prefers IPv4 over IPv6. At least my system is dual stack and some OSs have tuned their getaddrinfo() for different strategies.

    CU Andre E-Mail: andre@grueneberg.de
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  • From Andre Grueneberg@2:2411/525 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 20:44:30 2013
    Hi Kees

    Kees van Eeten schrieb:

    Ping6-ing my address works -- but that of course is not much of a
    comfort...
    Yes, that is the same excuse Michiel gives me every time I bring
    op the subject. But as moderator of this Echo, he should not have
    one.

    Especially taking into account that implementing some TCP-proxy that allows connections via IPv6 to IPv4-only software should be simple.

    CU Andre E-Mail: andre@grueneberg.de
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jan 26 12:29:07 2013
    Re: Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 2013 11:43 am

    Not a real binkd test, but it seems to work:

    # telnet ipv6.pharcyde.org binkp
    Trying 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78...
    Connected to ipv6.pharcyde.org.

    Excellent! Thanks Wilfred!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 12:59:45 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 2013 01:24 pm

    Aapparently it works, Wilfred demonstrated a telnet to your binkp port.
    I let Binkd make a connection at 12:02 UTC. Yust before that I
    frightened Jim Kulwiki, as I made a mistake in what node to poll.
    I won't show a section of my logfile, as the log is on a different
    system.

    I'm sure Jim won't be too bothered by it. :)

    With the inside information that you have a IPv6 address, setting up
    Binkd to call on IPv6 first and fall back on IPv4 is easy.
    Just make a nodeline with the two hostnames separated by a ","

    So something like:

    node 1:154/10@fidonet -md 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78,bbs.pharcyde.org <password>

    would work (obviously I wouldn't connect to my own system, but just as an example [smile])?

    It would be nice if bbs.pharcyde.org retured both, the IPv6 and the IPv4 address.

    I just payed dyndns.com a visit, and added my IPv6 address to pharcyde.ath.cx (which bbs, www, binkd, and most other CNAMEs point to). Hopefully that does the trick!

    The service a dyndns allows for adding a IPv6 address to the same
    domain name. Using this service I now have the correct DNS response of IPv4 and IPv6 on one query.

    That's great! I will keep tinkering here and see what I can come up with. It's definitely a "learn as you go" process. :)

    Well apart from, that a nonlisted hostname has to be used, you are
    probably the first IPv6 Fidonet node in Z1.

    The internet and technology is constantly evolving. You can either stick to what you know from 20 years ago and be forced to figure it out later, or you can try to stay informed with what's going on, and move on with the rest of the world. :)

    But you are not being loyal to your Zone, you are using Z2 software. ;)

    Loyalty has nothing to do with it. I'm not going to use junk that hasn't been maintained in over 10 years.

    Most of the software I chose to use here is still being maintained. That is a great selling point for me. Where it originated means nothing to me as long as I can read the documentation. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 13:00:30 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Bj”rn Felten on Sat Jan 26 2013 01:49 pm

    Yes, that is the same excuse Michiel gives me every time I bring op the
    subject. But as moderator of this Echo, he should not have one.

    Now someone from across the pond has beat you to it. ;)

    [DUCKS!] :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 22:19:04 2013
    Hello Nicholas!

    26 Jan 13 12:59, you wrote to me:

    I'm sure Jim won't be too bothered by it. :)

    That is a relief. ;))

    node 1:154/10@fidonet -md 2001:470:1f11:1027:250:8dff:fec0:ca78,bbs.pharcyde.org <password>

    I used:

    node 1:154/10@fidonet ipv6.pharcyde.org,bbs.pharcyde.org -

    The password can be in a different file.

    I just payed dyndns.com a visit, and added my IPv6 address to pharcyde.ath.cx (which bbs, www, binkd, and most other CNAMEs point to). Hopefully that does the trick!

    I tried from different system, I only got the ipv4 address.
    I have a vage memory, that you there was something nit straitforward in
    getting dyndns to accept de opdate. Currently my update routine
    manages to update both addresses.

    The service a dyndns allows for adding a IPv6 address to the same
    domain name. Using this service I now have the correct DNS response of
    IPv4 and IPv6 on one query.

    That's great! I will keep tinkering here and see what I can come up with. It's definitely a "learn as you go" process. :)

    Success.

    Loyalty has nothing to do with it. I'm not going to use junk that hasn't been maintained in over 10 years.

    Well I still use 10 year old software, but at least the sources are available.


    Kees

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Jan 26 20:14:16 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 26 2013 10:19 pm

    I used:

    node 1:154/10@fidonet ipv6.pharcyde.org,bbs.pharcyde.org -

    I suppose that would be easier. :)

    I just payed dyndns.com a visit, and added my IPv6 address to
    pharcyde.ath.cx (which bbs, www, binkd, and most other CNAMEs point
    to). Hopefully that does the trick!

    I tried from different system, I only got the ipv4 address.
    I have a vage memory, that you there was something nit straitforward in getting dyndns to accept de opdate. Currently my update routine
    manages to update both addresses.

    Go ahead and give another try when you have the time. I realized about an hour after I added the IPv6 address to dyndns.com it removed itself. I googled a bit and found out that if you run an update script or client on the IPv4 address, it wipes the IPv6 entry. So for now I added the v6 address back in and have turned off my update script.

    If you know of a good way to update the v6 address when the v4 address is updated, please share!

    Well I still use 10 year old software, but at least the sources are available.

    Good point.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Jan 27 13:58:24 2013
    Hello Nicholas!

    26 Jan 13 20:14, you wrote to me:

    Go ahead and give another try when you have the time. I realized about an hour after I added the IPv6 address to dyndns.com it removed itself. I googled a bit and found out that if you run an update script or client on the IPv4 address, it wipes the IPv6 entry. So for now I added the v6 address back in and have turned off my update script.

    If you know of a good way to update the v6 address when the v4 address is updated, please share!

    Yes I remember that, but I run the update once a day, the lease time of my
    dynamic address is over 30 days. In practice it does not change unless
    the provider changes hardware, or I release the address for some time.

    I changed the update software I originally used to ddclient.
    Ddclient is standard available in the Debian distribution.

    The following snippet of the configuration file does the trick.

    use=if, if=eth1
    usev6=ip, ip=2001:888:132a::34
    mx=mail.ddutch.nl

    My fost is connected to the ISP wityh a bridge, so there is not nat-router
    in between. I think ddclient can handle that as well.

    By the way your dns responce is now correct and I used it to make a call.
    By accident I bothered Jim again, apologies to him.

    Success.

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andre Grueneberg on Sun Jan 27 14:34:42 2013
    Hello Andre!

    26 Jan 13 20:44, you wrote to me:

    Especially taking into account that implementing some TCP-proxy that allows connections via IPv6 to IPv4-only software should be simple.

    I know this is done with e.g. DD-WRT to connect an internal IPv6 lan to
    a IPv4 internet connection. I can imagine that it can work the otherway
    around, but can it coexeist with a IPv6 tunnel.

    Could the proxy be implemented on a IPv6 capable Win-XP, that also hosts
    the IPv4 software.

    I am asking this for the benefit of others, as I hace no intention of
    implementing such a setup.

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Andre Grueneberg on Sun Jan 27 14:42:28 2013
    Hello Andre!

    26 Jan 13 20:33, you wrote to me:

    I introduced IPv6 in binkd 1.0a-563 and the following commits ... see HISTORY file. Binkd got a 1.0 a while later, around June last year.

    O.K. I will check the log, and see which of the contacts I made could
    have made a IPv6 connect.

    Of course -- I can also imagine situations where the OS prefers IPv4 over IPv6. At least my system is dual stack and some OSs have tuned their getaddrinfo() for different strategies.

    The was only one Binkd/windows system in the list and I don't know what
    their preference is.

    I think the mayor problem is inward routing to the localnet, prefarably
    disabled by default.

    Kees

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Jan 27 10:20:39 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Kees van Eeten to Nicholas Boel on Sun Jan 27 2013 01:58 pm

    If you know of a good way to update the v6 address when the v4
    address is updated, please share!

    Yes I remember that, but I run the update once a day, the lease time of my dynamic address is over 30 days. In practice it does not change unless
    the provider changes hardware, or I release the address for some time.

    True. Which I believe is about the same as over here. I've had this same external IP address for quite some time, and it rarely ever changes.

    I changed the update software I originally used to ddclient.
    Ddclient is standard available in the Debian distribution.

    I actually just run a script that wgets my IP and logs into dyndns.com to send it.

    The following snippet of the configuration file does the trick.

    use=if, if=eth1
    usev6=ip, ip=2001:888:132a::34
    mx=mail.ddutch.nl

    I've been looking for a way to send my v6 IP to dyndns.com with my script
    along with the v4 IP, but haven't found anything useful yet. I wonder if a &usev6=$v6ip in the same line that updates the hostname and v4 address would work. I'll definitely have to look into this more.

    By the way your dns responce is now correct and I used it to make a call.
    By accident I bothered Jim again, apologies to him.

    Exellent. Thank you for confirming, and the continuous tests!

    Success.

    .. is always a nice thing. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Bj÷rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Jan 27 22:37:33 2013
    Now someone from across the pond has beat you to it. ;)

    I don't really mind being beaten by such a nice person. :)

    I made some changes here -- not that I think it'll work, but if some would bother to test, I'm all ears.

    I'm still somewhat suspicious about Argus' IPv6 capability. Anyone knows about an IPv6 capable Argus system?

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Björn Felten on Sun Jan 27 22:53:22 2013
    Hello Bj”rn!

    27 Jan 13 22:37, you wrote to me:

    Now someone from across the pond has beat you to it. ;)
    I don't really mind being beaten by such a nice person. :)

    I agree here are worse.

    I made some changes here -- not that I think it'll work, but if
    some
    would bother to test, I'm all ears.

    To bad, it failed on IPv6 Time 22:52:47

    I'm still somewhat suspicious about Argus' IPv6 capability. Anyone knows about an IPv6 capable Argus system?

    No idea, it does not run on my system.

    Kees

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  • From Bj÷rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Jan 27 23:14:23 2013
    To bad, it failed on IPv6 Time 22:52:47

    Well, now at least traceroute6 works all the way -- even if the last hop takes some time -- so I must be one step closer to the goal.

    Thanks for the swift response!

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Björn Felten on Sun Jan 27 23:25:34 2013
    Hello Bj”rn!

    27 Jan 13 23:14, you wrote to me:

    To bad, it failed on IPv6 Time 22:52:47

    Well, now at least traceroute6 works all the way -- even if the last hop takes some time -- so I must be one step closer to the goal.

    Thanks for the swift response!

    Sorry, maybe I misunderstood. Are you trying to connect to me?
    What I reported was a connect to you.

    Kees

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  • From Bj÷rn Felten@2:203/2 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Jan 27 23:55:32 2013
    Sorry, maybe I misunderstood. Are you trying to connect to me?

    No, no, no! What I meant with the traceroute comment was that previously it ended with a lot of triple stars, now it makes it all the way -- and in just 9-10 hops.

    I obviously means from an outside system. I use this very good service:

    http://www.wiberg.nu/iptools.php

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sun Jan 27 19:39:52 2013
    Re: IPv6 Nodes in Fidonet.
    By: Björn Felten to Kees van Eeten on Sun Jan 27 2013 10:37 pm

    I don't really mind being beaten by such a nice person. :)

    Hah! :)

    I made some changes here -- not that I think it'll work, but if some would bother to test, I'm all ears.

    All I had the time for currently was a ping6 -- that seemed to give some results:

    [axisd@precision ~]$ ping6 -c 3 felten.yi.org
    PING felten.yi.org(cl-775.sto-01.se.sixxs.net) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from cl-775.sto-01.se.sixxs.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=210 ms
    64 bytes from cl-775.sto-01.se.sixxs.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=116 time=212 ms
    64 bytes from cl-775.sto-01.se.sixxs.net: icmp_seq=3 ttl=116 time=212 ms

    I'm still somewhat suspicious about Argus' IPv6 capability. Anyone knows about an IPv6 capable Argus system?

    So far it doesn't seem like it. A ping6 to port 24554 over there comes up "unknown host." Then again, when was the last time Argus was updated at all?

    Regards,
    Nick


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  • From Andre Grueneberg@2:2411/525 to Kees van Eeten on Mon Jan 28 23:50:32 2013
    Hi Kees

    Kees van Eeten schrieb:

    Especially taking into account that implementing some TCP-proxy that
    allows connections via IPv6 to IPv4-only software should be simple.
    I know this is done with e.g. DD-WRT to connect an internal IPv6
    lan to a IPv4 internet connection. I can imagine that it can work
    the otherway around, but can it coexeist with a IPv6 tunnel.

    Well, that's most likely NAT64+DNS64 or the like.
    I was rather suggesting a more simple thing, like tcpproxy (http://www.spreadspace.org/tcpproxy/).

    Could the proxy be implemented on a IPv6 capable Win-XP, that
    also hosts the IPv4 software.

    In principle yes ... it's a rather simple setup to listen for IPv6 connections and put them through to a pre-defined IPv4 destination.

    CU Andre E-Mail: andre@grueneberg.de
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