• IPv6 addresses in nodelist

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Mon Aug 19 10:47:58 2013

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    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Sunday August 18 2013 23:35, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    I hope my ISP hurries up and give us native IPv6 so I don't have
    to do the tunnel workaround anymore...

    That makes at least two of us... 8-)

    My ISP (Ziggo) keeps promising they will start rolling out native IPv6 "by the end of the year". They have been issuing statements to that effect every spring for the last five years...

    While it is true that they have been shipping DOCSIS 3 modems to new customers and to existing customers who needed a new modem because of a speed upgrade, they have only enabled IPv6 on some bussines accounts so far.

    AFAIK the only ISP in The Netherlands offering native IPv6 on consumer accounts is XS4ALL.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 19 04:47:22 2013
    My ISP (Ziggo) keeps promising they will start rolling out native IPv6 "by the end of the year". They have been issuing statements to that effect every spring for the last five years...

    I just checked my ISPs IPv6 support site, and it still shows that this should all have been done back in 2012. Since the fear of actually running out of IPv4 addresses has long since passed, it seems as though ISPs are slacking because of it.

    While it is true that they have been shipping DOCSIS 3 modems to new customers and to existing customers who needed a new modem because of a speed upgrade, they have only enabled IPv6 on some bussines accounts so far.

    Pretty much the same scenario here. I have a DOCSIS 3 modem, as well as faster speeds (I believe there's even two more speed tiers above what I have, but for the price it's not worth it), but still no native IPv6 yet.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Aug 19 12:12:44 2013
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    Hello Nicholas,

    On Sunday August 18 2013 10:44, you wrote to me:

    A decent DNS provider will let you add an AAAA (IPv6) record, but
    unfortunately there are still a few arond that don't. :-(

    I'm using Godaddy for my domains (no hosting, or anything other than
    the domains) and they do, in fact, have a AAAA record. I just have to tinker with ip6tables some more and get a decent firewall in place
    before opening it up to the world.

    A firewall supporting IPv6 is certainly recommended. I have installed OpenWrt on an old Linksys WRT54GL. It takes care of my he.net tunnel and it has a firewall that supports IPv6. Because of its limited memory, this version of Openwrt dispenses with a http server for configuration. It is console via SSH only. But for an experienced Fidonet sysop that should not be a big poroblem. ;-)

    It has been running for almost three years now.

    I wrote a couple of fidonews articles about it.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Aug 19 12:21:17 2013
    Hello Nicholas,

    On Monday August 19 2013 04:47, you wrote to me:

    While it is true that they have been shipping DOCSIS 3 modems to
    new customers and to existing customers who needed a new modem
    because of a speed upgrade, they have only enabled IPv6 on some
    bussines accounts so far.

    Pretty much the same scenario here. I have a DOCSIS 3 modem, as well
    as faster speeds

    Actually I turned down an upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 modem two years ago. At that time I had a 2/20 Mbps connection and they were going to double the speed for all accounts. That required a new modem because my Motorola Surfboard can not handle 40 Mpbs. The snake in the grass was that I would not just get a modem, I would get a modem with build in wireless router. At the time it was unclear how much control I would get over the router part, so I evaded the upgrade by downgrading my account. I went fro 2/20 Mpbs to 1/10 Mpbd, saved 10 Euro a month and ket control over my router. ;-)

    Recently they doubled the speeds again, so now I am back at 2/20. ;-)

    The have now changed strategy. They still issue DOCSIS 3 modems with build in wireless router, but at the customers request they will put it in bridge mode, so that the customer can still use his own router. I can live with that, so at the next round I will accept the DOCSIS 3 modem.

    (I believe there's even two more speed tiers above what I have,

    I have the lowest speeds they offer. 2 up. 20 down. I do not know on the top of my head how many tiers above me, but they offer up to 150 Mbps down at the moment. I have no need for that, 2/20 is enough for me, I am not a gamer or a heavy downloader.

    but for the price it's not worth it), but still no native IPv6 yet.

    Same here regarding the speed. But I would like native IPv6. The tunnels (he.net and SixXs) work fine, but they DO slow things down quit a bit...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 19 06:22:06 2013
    A firewall supporting IPv6 is certainly recommended. I have installed OpenWrt on an old Linksys WRT54GL. It takes care of my he.net tunnel and it has a firewall that supports IPv6. Because of its limited memory, this version of Openwrt dispenses with a http server for configuration. It is console via SSH only. But for an experienced Fidonet sysop that should not be a big poroblem. ;-)

    I'm using the exact same router, though I have DD-WRT installed on it, which does have the IPv6 support, just no firewall for it. That's not too bothersome, since I eventually want the functionality of ip6tables anyways, but yeah, you definitely went an easier route -- and I may just go that route if I'm too lazy to configure ip6tables.

    It has been running for almost three years now.

    Definitely my favorite router. I could have chosen a fancy new wireless-N router, but bleh.. the WRT54GL is just so stable that I'll have to wait until it doesn't work anymore.

    I wrote a couple of fidonews articles about it.

    A very good read, I might add. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 19 06:28:40 2013
    Actually I turned down an upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 modem two years ago. At that time I had a 2/20 Mbps connection and they were going to double the speed for all accounts. That required a new modem because my Motorola Surfboard can not handle 40 Mpbs. The snake in the grass was that I would not just get a modem, I would get a modem with build in wireless router. At the time it was unclear how much control I would get over the router part, so I evaded the upgrade by downgrading my account. I went fro 2/20 Mpbs to 1/10 Mpbd, saved 10 Euro a month and ket control over my router. ;-)

    I ran into that not too long ago, but I made sure I was able to use my own router and bypass theirs. Luckily I was able to.

    Recently they doubled the speeds again, so now I am back at 2/20. ;-)

    Worked out for you then. :)

    The have now changed strategy. They still issue DOCSIS 3 modems with build in wireless router, but at the customers request they will put it in bridge mode, so that the customer can still use his own router. I can live with that, so at the next round I will accept the DOCSIS 3 modem.

    That's the way to go as long as you can still have the most control over your router possible. For a short time I switched ISPs here and they forced me their modem/router all-in-one unit. It was pure junk, and I switched back to my long-time ISP pretty quickly.

    I have the lowest speeds they offer. 2 up. 20 down. I do not know on the top of my head how many tiers above me, but they offer up to 150 Mbps down at the moment. I have no need for that, 2/20 is enough for me, I am not a gamer or a heavy downloader.

    I'm a bit of a gamer, but 20/2 is still plenty of speed for that. I may one day upgrade to 30/5, but it's unlikely at this point.

    Same here regarding the speed. But I would like native IPv6. The tunnels (he.net and SixXs) work fine, but they DO slow things down quit a bit...

    Agreed. I use he.net just for the tinkering end of things. I'm not going to do anything major until I have native support, though.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Aug 19 14:42:47 2013
    Hello Nicholas,

    On Monday August 19 2013 06:22, you wrote to me:

    A firewall supporting IPv6 is certainly recommended. I have
    installed OpenWrt on an old Linksys WRT54GL.
    [..]

    I'm using the exact same router, though I have DD-WRT installed on it, which does have the IPv6 support, just no firewall for it. That's not
    too bothersome, since I eventually want the functionality of ip6tables anyways, but yeah, you definitely went an easier route -- and I may
    just go that route if I'm too lazy to configure ip6tables.

    If you want to switch to OpenWrt, here is the binary that runs here:

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs-r25759.bin

    Honesty compells me tell that I did not compile it myself. Some guy in the Netherlands did...

    It has been running for almost three years now.

    Definitely my favorite router. I could have chosen a fancy new
    wireless-N router, but bleh.. the WRT54GL is just so stable that I'll
    have to wait until it doesn't work anymore.

    It is very stable indeed. Never had to reset it.

    But I realise it won't last forever and some day it may die or I may run into it's limitations and need something more powerful. Ah well, we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

    I wrote a couple of fidonews articles about it.

    A very good read, I might add. :)

    Thanks. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 19 17:17:55 2013
    If you want to switch to OpenWrt, here is the binary that runs here:

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs-r25759.bin

    Thanks. Just snagged it in case I want to give it a try.

    It is very stable indeed. Never had to reset it.

    But I realise it won't last forever and some day it may die or I may run into it's limitations and need something more powerful. Ah well, we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

    That's true. Though I was using a WRT54G and then a WRT54G2 and after both of those died on me, I actually backed up a bit and bought the WRT54GL because of it's stability. I haven't used a wireless-N router yet, except for the very brief time I switched ISPs (maybe 2-3 months).

    Like you said though, the bridge will need to be crossed at some point, but I haven't quite made it there yet. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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