• Connecting...

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.6 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Feb 8 00:57:14 2014
    Hello Tommi,

    I see you found me:

    - 20:54 [8112] incoming from 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (1195)
    + 20:54 [2044] incoming session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
    - 20:54 [2044] SYS RBBv6
    - 20:54 [2044] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    - 20:54 [2044] LOC ::1
    - 20:54 [2044] NDL IBN,ICM
    - 20:54 [2044] TIME Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:54:44 +0200
    - 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1
    + 20:54 [2044] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    - 20:54 [2044] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
    + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 20:54 [2044] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    - 20:54 [2044] TRF 0 0
    + 20:54 [2044] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
    + 20:54 [2044] done (from 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    20:54 [2044] session closed, quitting...

    I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

    But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you. Perhaps you use a Teredo tunnel?


    01:02 [5908] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    01:02 [5908] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    01:02 [5908] clientmgr started
    + 01:02 [3796] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
    01:02 [3796] trying cow.dy.fi [91.155.97.33]...
    01:02 [3796] connected
    + 01:02 [3796] outgoing session with 91.155.97.33
    - 01:02 [3796] OPT CRAM-MD5-b0fe5cac5cb3e93be96e04bdf4efbfee
    + 01:02 [3796] Remote requests MD mode
    - 01:02 [3796] SYS Cow
    - 01:02 [3796] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    - 01:02 [3796] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
    - 01:02 [3796] NDL BND
    - 01:02 [3796] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 02:02:51 +0200
    - 01:02 [3796] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
    + 01:02 [3796] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    - 01:02 [3796] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    + 01:02 [3796] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 01:02 [3796] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    01:02 [3796] session closed, quitting...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555.6)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Feb 8 10:12:30 2014
    On 8.2.2014 1:57, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    MvdV> Hello Tommi,

    MvdV> I see you found me:

    MvdV> - 20:54 [8112] incoming from 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92 (1195)
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] incoming session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] SYS RBBv6
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] LOC ::1
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] NDL IBN,ICM
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] TIME Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:54:44 +0200
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    MvdV> - 20:54 [2044] TRF 0 0
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
    MvdV> + 20:54 [2044] done (from 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    MvdV> 20:54 [2044] session closed, quitting...

    MvdV> I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

    Sure. :)

    But as you can see, I polled your system by IPv6 from OS/2 machine.
    There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

    That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows machine.

    MvdV> But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you. Perhaps
    MvdV> you use a Teredo tunnel?

    No teredo but 6to4 in my Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT) router.

    Inbound IPv6 to 2:221/6 is possible, but I have noticed some hickups in
    the 6to4 gateway. Rebooted the router this morning.

    2:221/6 is native win32 and is running on a Windows 2003 Server.

    MvdV> 01:02 [5908] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    MvdV> 01:02 [5908] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    MvdV> 01:02 [5908] clientmgr started
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
    MvdV> 01:02 [3796] trying cow.dy.fi [91.155.97.33]...
    MvdV> 01:02 [3796] connected
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] outgoing session with 91.155.97.33
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] OPT CRAM-MD5-b0fe5cac5cb3e93be96e04bdf4efbfee
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] Remote requests MD mode
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] SYS Cow
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] NDL BND
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 02:02:51 +0200
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    MvdV> - 01:02 [3796] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    MvdV> + 01:02 [3796] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    MvdV> 01:02 [3796] session closed, quitting...

    [C:\]host cow.dy.fi
    cow.dy.fi has address 91.155.97.33
    cow.dy.fi has IPv6 address 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92

    How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

    node 2:221/6 -6 *

    'Tommi

    --- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
    * Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.6 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Feb 8 15:19:23 2014
    Hello Tommi,

    On Saturday February 08 2014 10:12, you wrote to me:

    On 8.2.2014 1:57, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    MvdV>> 20:54 [2044] VER binkd/1.1a-49/OS2 binkp/1.1 +

    MvdV>> I didn't know you were IPv6 capable.

    Sure. :)

    But as you can see, I polled your system by IPv6 from OS/2 machine.

    Yes, now that you mention it, I see it. I hadn't noticed before.

    There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

    Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6 was coming. Haven't heard from them since...

    That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows
    machine.

    Ah, cheating! ;-)

    MvdV>> But it does not work both ways. I get an IPv4 connect from you.
    MvdV>> Perhaps you use a Teredo tunnel?

    No teredo but 6to4 in my Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT) router.

    I too have a 6to4 tunntl in a Linksys WRT54GL. But it runs OpenWrt.

    Inbound IPv6 to 2:221/6 is possible, but I have noticed some hickups
    in the 6to4 gateway. Rebooted the router this morning.

    2:221/6 is native win32 and is running on a Windows 2003 Server.

    Ok.


    How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

    node 2:221/6 -6 *

    Yes, that works:

    D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    15:17 [6436] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    15:17 [6436] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    15:17 [6436] clientmgr started
    + 15:17 [5128] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
    15:17 [5128] trying cow.dy.fi [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]...
    15:17 [5128] connected
    + 15:17 [5128] outgoing session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
    - 15:17 [5128] OPT CRAM-MD5-2a0b71e21a78326673cc3b5028f514ee
    + 15:17 [5128] Remote requests MD mode
    - 15:17 [5128] SYS Cow
    - 15:17 [5128] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    - 15:17 [5128] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
    - 15:17 [5128] NDL BND
    - 15:17 [5128] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:17:45 +0200
    - 15:17 [5128] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
    + 15:17 [5128] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    - 15:17 [5128] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    + 15:17 [5128] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 15:17 [5128] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    15:17 [5128] session closed, quitting...
    15:17 [6436] the queue is empty, quitting...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: IPv6 test point (2:280/5555.6)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Feb 8 18:43:31 2014
    There is not and wont ever be IPv6 for OS/2.

    MvdV> Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from
    MvdV> eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6 was
    MvdV> coming. Haven't heard from them since...

    I never liked ECS, so I'm with WSEB as long as I run OS/2...

    That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a windows
    machine.

    MvdV> Ah, cheating! ;-)

    Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

    How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

    node 2:221/6 -6 *

    MvdV> Yes, that works:

    D:\FIDO\BINKD>> binkd -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    MvdV> 15:17 [6436] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-49/Win32 -p -P 221/6 binkd.cfg
    MvdV> 15:17 [6436] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
    MvdV> 15:17 [6436] clientmgr started
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
    MvdV> 15:17 [5128] trying cow.dy.fi [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]...
    MvdV> 15:17 [5128] connected
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] outgoing session with 2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] OPT CRAM-MD5-2a0b71e21a78326673cc3b5028f514ee
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] Remote requests MD mode
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] SYS Cow
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] LOC [2002:5b9b:640c:1:201:2ff:fef9:af92]
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] NDL BND
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] TIME Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:17:45 +0200
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] VER binkd/1.1a-49/CYGWIN_NT-5.2 binkp/1.1
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
    MvdV> - 15:17 [5128] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    MvdV> + 15:17 [5128] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    MvdV> 15:17 [5128] session closed, quitting...
    MvdV> 15:17 [6436] the queue is empty, quitting...

    Great, now you can route R22 mail thru 2:221/6. ;-)

    'Tommi

    --- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
    * Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.6 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Feb 12 01:30:34 2014
    Hello Tommi,

    On Saturday February 08 2014 18:43, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Two years ago - at a computer meeting - I spoke to a guy from
    MvdV>> eComStation (the Successor of OS/2) and he assured me that IPv6
    MvdV>> was coming. Haven't heard from them since...

    I never liked ECS, so I'm with WSEB as long as I run OS/2...

    OK, but I think OS/2 is a dead end either way. I tried it for a while 15 years ago and I liked it. Until I got into networking and I could not make it talk to Novell (Personal) Netware. Of course it can do TCP/IP now, but then I had already turned away from it. It seems OS/2 is always one or two steps behind when it comes to networking. And now it does not support IPv6 and as you say, it most likely never will. So for me, end of story.

    That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a
    windows machine.

    MvdV>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

    Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

    Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that cheating. ;-)

    How about if you set up this in your binkd conf:

    node 2:221/6 -6 *

    MvdV>> Yes, that works:

    Great, now you can route R22 mail thru 2:221/6. ;-)

    I may consider that when I have converted my main system to IPv6. ;-)

    Stay tuned.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 12 12:25:40 2014
    Hello Michiel!

    12 Feb 14 01:30, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    That outbound connection was possible via http proxy in a
    windows machine.

    MvdV>>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

    Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

    MvdV> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to
    MvdV> trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that
    MvdV> cheating. ;-)

    Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet we
    have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the internet
    is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system, and it suddenly is
    called cheating ??

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 12 15:21:14 2014
    On 12.2.2014 2:30, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    MvdV>>> Ah, cheating! ;-)

    Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is cheating!

    MvdV> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is used to
    MvdV> trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I call that
    MvdV> cheating. ;-)

    How about good old NAT in IPv4 network? Cheating?

    My OS/2 server has only one address: 192.168.1.2. It cannot communicate
    with internet without cheating. I mean NAT. ;)

    How about IPv6 tunnels? Cheating with big C. ;)

    'Tommi

    --- JamNNTPd/OS2 1.05
    * Origin: ---------------------------------------- (2:221/360)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.6 to Kees van Eeten on Wed Feb 12 16:26:08 2014
    Hello Kees,

    On Wednesday February 12 2014 12:25, you wrote to me:

    Ah, we need to get this into binkd docs, using proxy is
    cheating!

    MvdV>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
    MvdV>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
    MvdV>> call that cheating. ;-)

    Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet
    we have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the internet is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system,
    and it suddenly is called cheating ??

    You missed the smiley?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.6 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Feb 12 16:27:09 2014
    Hello Tommi,

    On Wednesday February 12 2014 15:21, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
    MvdV>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
    MvdV>> call that cheating. ;-)

    How about good old NAT in IPv4 network? Cheating?

    Definitely! ;-)

    My OS/2 server has only one address: 192.168.1.2. It cannot
    communicate with internet without cheating. I mean NAT. ;)

    How about IPv6 tunnels? Cheating with big C. ;)

    Sure. ;-)

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: IPv6 Test Point (2:280/5555.6)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 12 19:19:52 2014
    Hello Michiel!

    12 Feb 14 16:26, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> Well, it depends of course what the proxy is used for. If it is
    MvdV>>> used to trick the world into believing OS/2 can do IPv6, yes, I
    MvdV>>> call that cheating. ;-)

    Why, conversion plugs and connectors are used everywhere. In fidonet
    we have people using Vmodem drivers to make old software think the
    internet is a POTS line. Now a proxy is used on a different system,
    and it suddenly is called cheating ??

    MvdV> You missed the smiley?

    Well you know I have no sense of Humor. ;-))

    Kees

    --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)