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    Robert Wolfe(1:116/17) Sun Sep 2 09:36:00 2018 0FidoAddr: All
    Saw this and thought I would share it with everyone interested:
    Mobile Interfacing is a major step for Wildcat! Its going to be a moving post. But one thing for sure, is how it will work as a
    standard Wildcat! Interface when it comes to:

    I am open to paying 79-99 bucks for an upgrade if it looks so promising.

    Right now it seems to be. I know it seems like HLS is revisiting
    something he was doing back in 2000, but with the prevalence of mobile
    devices these days, it looks like he is wanting to move forward with
    what he started back then.

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    Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:36:00 -0600
    From: robert.wolfe@winserver.org
    Subject: Wildcat! Mobile Int 01/02
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    Saw this and thought I would share it with everyone interested:

    This message was from winserver.support@winserv to winserver
    originally in conference wcListServe WIN Server on XPRESS {Santronics
    and was forwarded to you by BOBBY TODD
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    Mobile Interfacing is a major step for Wildcat! Its going to be a
    moving post. But one thing for sure, is how it will work as a
    standard Wildcat! Interface when it comes to:

    - Menu Display of your wcMENU items
    - WCN (Wildcat! Navigator) Clients

    Today, we have the following:

    For MODEM/TELNET MODE, we have the wcMENU system which allows you to
    use two column display of items and/or display of ANSI displays to
    override the text menu. (TIP: If you remove (hide/move) the
    MENU\*.BBS files, you will see the two column display of your menu items.)

    For FTP, there is no navigation other than the File Groups/Areas layout.

    For WEB mode, the stock Wildcat! navigation is the WCN clients.
    WcNavigator is modeled on this layout of using the clients listed
    under the "CLIENTS\" sub-folder. For example:

    Directory of C:\wcat\clients

    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> .
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> ..
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Chat Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> File Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Instant Message Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Message Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Personal Properties Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Sysop Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> System
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Terminal Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Transfer Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Who's Online Client

    Thats for WcNavigator and also for setting the access securities.

    For WcWEB, the urls are:

    /client?personal.wcn Personal (Your Settings)
    /client?message.wcn Messaging
    /client?file.wcn Filing
    /client?who.wcn who's online
    /client?chat.wcn chat
    /client?terminal.wcn terminal
    /client?sysop.wcn Sysop menu

    WcWEB has a default page header where these are set in:

    http\template\pageheadermenu.inc

    Despite its age, it is pretty advanced stuff with lots of "automation"
    then and now.

    That is where "Wildcat! Mobile" comes into play.

    I had started this back in the early 2000s way before we had a clue
    what the mobile world would look like. The early days, the interface proposal was called WAP, it was XML, RSS like system to display stuff.
    It was still a moving target and we had yet to be ready for mobile bandwidth. It didn't work well and there was no standard for PHONES
    yet too. Today, its pretty much Apple or Android. Microsoft seem to
    punked out.

    But to show you want I am talking about and still thinking of doing
    for MOBILE today, is what I had done back in the early 2000s:

    http://www.winserver.com/phonemenu.wct

    From a PC, Login and click the above to see how I taking the wcMENU
    items and creating a text display with old school mobile dimensions.

    This is applicable today, but not in TEXT mode but using HTML5
    Javacript and the new MOBILE dimensions available.

    Thats where I am going with all these, what STOCK interface do we want
    for the basic Wildcat! Clients and Wildcat Menu Navigation?

    If you know of a particular mobile interface you like and/or think
    fits for what I want to do, please show me a URL link for an example.
    Please keep in mind, I am not talking of the Page Layouts. Its all
    related, but how do you put the MENUS and CLIENTS in the headers, for
    example. Whats a good interface, one can start with?
    (Continued to next message)

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    Robert Wolfe(1:116/17) Sun Sep 2 09:36:00 2018 0FidoAddr: All
    Saw this and thought I would share it with everyone interested:
    Mobile Interfacing is a major step for Wildcat! Its going to be a moving post. But one thing for sure, is how it will work as a
    standard Wildcat! Interface when it comes to:

    I am open to paying 79-99 bucks for an upgrade if it looks so promising.

    Right now it seems to be. I know it seems like HLS is revisiting
    something he was doing back in 2000, but with the prevalence of mobile
    devices these days, it looks like he is wanting to move forward with
    what he started back then.

    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:36:00 -0600
    From: robert.wolfe@winserver.org
    Subject: Wildcat! Mobile Int 01/02
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    Saw this and thought I would share it with everyone interested:

    This message was from winserver.support@winserv to winserver
    originally in conference wcListServe WIN Server on XPRESS {Santronics
    and was forwarded to you by BOBBY TODD
    ----------------------------------------
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    Mobile Interfacing is a major step for Wildcat! Its going to be a
    moving post. But one thing for sure, is how it will work as a
    standard Wildcat! Interface when it comes to:

    - Menu Display of your wcMENU items
    - WCN (Wildcat! Navigator) Clients

    Today, we have the following:

    For MODEM/TELNET MODE, we have the wcMENU system which allows you to
    use two column display of items and/or display of ANSI displays to
    override the text menu. (TIP: If you remove (hide/move) the
    MENU\*.BBS files, you will see the two column display of your menu items.)

    For FTP, there is no navigation other than the File Groups/Areas layout.

    For WEB mode, the stock Wildcat! navigation is the WCN clients.
    WcNavigator is modeled on this layout of using the clients listed
    under the "CLIENTS\" sub-folder. For example:

    Directory of C:\wcat\clients

    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> .
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> ..
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Chat Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> File Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Instant Message Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Message Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Personal Properties Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Sysop Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> System
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Terminal Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Transfer Client
    06/25/2017 08:38 PM <DIR> Who's Online Client

    Thats for WcNavigator and also for setting the access securities.

    For WcWEB, the urls are:

    /client?personal.wcn Personal (Your Settings)
    /client?message.wcn Messaging
    /client?file.wcn Filing
    /client?who.wcn who's online
    /client?chat.wcn chat
    /client?terminal.wcn terminal
    /client?sysop.wcn Sysop menu

    WcWEB has a default page header where these are set in:

    http\template\pageheadermenu.inc

    Despite its age, it is pretty advanced stuff with lots of "automation"
    then and now.

    That is where "Wildcat! Mobile" comes into play.

    I had started this back in the early 2000s way before we had a clue
    what the mobile world would look like. The early days, the interface proposal was called WAP, it was XML, RSS like system to display stuff.
    It was still a moving target and we had yet to be ready for mobile bandwidth. It didn't work well and there was no standard for PHONES
    yet too. Today, its pretty much Apple or Android. Microsoft seem to
    punked out.

    But to show you want I am talking about and still thinking of doing
    for MOBILE today, is what I had done back in the early 2000s:

    http://www.winserver.com/phonemenu.wct

    From a PC, Login and click the above to see how I taking the wcMENU
    items and creating a text display with old school mobile dimensions.

    This is applicable today, but not in TEXT mode but using HTML5
    Javacript and the new MOBILE dimensions available.

    Thats where I am going with all these, what STOCK interface do we want
    for the basic Wildcat! Clients and Wildcat Menu Navigation?

    If you know of a particular mobile interface you like and/or think
    fits for what I want to do, please show me a URL link for an example.
    Please keep in mind, I am not talking of the Page Layouts. Its all
    related, but how do you put the MENUS and CLIENTS in the headers, for
    example. Whats a good interface, one can start with?
    (Continued to next message)

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