• Worldtime.com

    From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Ben Ritchey on Sun Oct 2 18:37:00 2016
    www.worldtime.com

    I was looking around the Federal Aviation Administration webspages trying
    to find a Article (or Image) about a United States map marked off in
    Sections (Grids) and found the worldtime website that has a "Sun Time" tab
    on it, that looks like what Sidekick would show me on my Windows 95 computer.

    Around 1954 one of my friends asked me if I wanted to go with him to a
    meeting at the Ground Observers Corps (GOC) Filter Center that was a
    U.S. Air Force program.

    In the room I saw a wood Plotting Table that had a map of the area about
    100 Miles all around my city.

    Each Square was marked with two letters, EJ was the Grid that showed where
    my city was located.

    Amateur Radio uses a Grid Square method to indicate where on the Map My
    (or Another Ham Radio Licensee) is located, but this isn't the Map I was looking for.

    When I was in the Navy, one of the Officers had a Map of the U.S.A. that
    was marked off in Grids and it showed my home located in the EJ square,
    like it showed on the Plotting Table at the GOC Filter Center back home.

    I didn't find the Map I was looking for but I did find the worldtime page
    and thought I'd mention it to You since we talked about the Sidekick program
    on my old Win95 pc.

    Maybe someone reading this would know a URL where I could find the Map
    of the U.S. that I'm looking for. TIA


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ed Vance on Mon Oct 3 09:38:10 2016

    02 Oct 16 18:37, you wrote to Ben Ritchey:

    In the room I saw a wood Plotting Table that had a map of the area
    about 100 Miles all around my city.

    Each Square was marked with two letters, EJ was the Grid that showed
    where my city was located.

    [snip]

    When I was in the Navy, one of the Officers had a Map of the U.S.A.
    that was marked off in Grids and it showed my home located in the EJ square, like it showed on the Plotting Table at the GOC Filter Center
    back home.

    this sounds like you are talking about the Maidenhead Locators or the old QRA Locator...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRA_locator

    but the EJ grid you mention seems to be located over the western half of Panama
    and the southern half of Costa Rica...

    using the MhL, i'm in grid FM... more specifically FM05...

    http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Tue Oct 4 09:41:00 2016
    In a message on Tuesday 10-02-16 Ed Vance said to Ben Ritchey:

    GE Ed,

    I was looking around the Federal Aviation Administration webspages
    trying to find a Article (or Image) about a United States map marked
    off in Sections (Grids) and found the worldtime website that has a
    "Sun Time" tab on it, that looks like what Sidekick would show me on
    my Windows 95 computer.

    This was the second message, that arrived today in the WIN95 echo.

    Nothing between sept. 10th and these two messages today.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Holger Granholm on Wed Oct 5 15:02:11 2016
    Nothing between sept. 10th and these two messages today.

    Well, I've told you once and I've told you twice. You can get a much more fast and secure connection to fidonet in other ways than via 2:201/0. But you really have to upgrade to an IP connection rather than your present POTS ditto.



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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to mark lewis on Tue Oct 4 13:59:00 2016
    10-03-16 09:38 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Worldtime.com
    Howdy! Mark,

    @MSGID: <57F2D740.14854.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    02 Oct 16 18:37, you wrote to Ben Ritchey:

    In the room I saw a wood Plotting Table that had a map of the area
    about 100 Miles all around my city.

    Each Square was marked with two letters, EJ was the Grid that showed
    where my city was located.

    [snip]

    When I was in the Navy, one of the Officers had a Map of the U.S.A.
    that was marked off in Grids and it showed my home located in the EJ square, like it showed on the Plotting Table at the GOC Filter Center
    back home.

    this sounds like you are talking about the Maidenhead Locators or the
    old QRA Locator...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRA_locator

    Thanks, I looked at those two articles and a bunch more last night but
    still didn't see any Map with a E J grid located at Louisville, Kentucky.

    I never heard the term "Maidenhead Locator System" B4, I think HamGrid is
    what I've heard it called by.

    but the EJ grid you mention seems to be located over the western half
    of Panama and the southern half of Costa Rica...

    using the MhL, i'm in grid FM... more specifically FM05...

    I am in the EM78 Grid using that Maidenhead system.

    That is close to EJ but EM sounds really far away from EJ as I live only
    ~ 5.0 Miles (measuring with a ruler on a map) from the place where I
    remember the EJ grid being shown on the Plotting Table in the GOC Filter Center, and EM to me would seem to me to be a VERY BIG jump over the EK
    and EL grids.

    I used QRZ.COM and learned that the place I remembered in the EJ grid is
    also in the EM78 grid, it just has a different set of Lower Case Letters
    after it than what my location has.

    The Air Force closed the GOC Filter Center in Louisville in the mid-1950's
    and used their Filter Center in Lexington, Kentucky to handle calls from Observation Posts in its area.

    I took Observer Training after the Filter Center closed, so when the GOC
    had Exercises I helped man the Post and called reports in to the Filter
    Center in Lexington and identified the Observer Post as:

    Echo Juliet One One Red.

    The last meeting the Air Force had for GOC Observers was to tell us the
    GOC Program wasn't needed anymore because a range of RADAR Stations had
    had been built across Canada, that was in 1957 or 1958 iir.

    That is why I have been looking for a grid map that has the grid EJ marked
    in the Louisville, KY area. Memories, Memories, Memories.........

    I will have to study a bit to figure out how Juliet would be figured from
    Zero Degree Latitude to just above North 38 Degree Latitude where I'm at.

    Juliet is the Tenth Letter of the Alphabet so my guess is each grid on
    the Plotting Table was 15 Degrees Wide by 4.222 Degrees High???????????????

    Good enuf for me Vern. But I might not be even close in my calculations.


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Björn Felten on Thu Oct 6 11:46:00 2016
    In a message on Thursday 10-05-16 Bj”rn Felten said to Holger Granholm:

    Nothing between sept. 10th and these two messages today.

    Well, I've told you once and I've told you twice. You can get a
    much more fast and secure connection to fidonet in other ways than
    via 2:201/0. But you really have to upgrade to an IP connection
    rather than your present POTS ditto.

    Do YOU think that would increase the activity of the echo?
    Would that increase the flow of messages through YOUR system?


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Björn Felten on Sun Oct 9 09:13:12 2016
    * Originally in win95
    * Crossposted in r20_admin

    Hi Bj”rn.

    05 Oct 16 15:02, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    Nothing between sept. 10th and these two messages today.

    Well, I've told you once and I've told you twice. You can get a much more fast and secure connection to fidonet in other ways than via 2:201/0. But you really have to upgrade to an IP connection rather than your
    present
    POTS ditto.

    Are you saying that 2:201/0 is not a secure host??

    Or are you saying that IP connection is 'much more secure' than direct modem-to-modem connection? On the contrary!

    I have offered Holger several ways to establish a link over ip, including binkp, vmodem, telnet, ftp, email.. He wants to use pots, please respect that.

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Sat Oct 8 11:39:00 2016
    In a message on Saturday 10-04-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

    Hi Ed,

    this sounds like you are talking about the Maidenhead Locators or
    the old QRA Locator...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRA_locator

    I never heard the term "Maidenhead Locator System" B4, I think
    HamGrid is what I've heard it called by.

    The Maidenhead locator is a new more exact version of the QRA Locator,
    and it covers the entire world. The QRA Locator was originally configured
    to cover only Europe.

    I used QRZ.COM and learned that the place I remembered in the EJ
    grid is also in the EM78 grid, it just has a different set of Lower
    Case Letters after it than what my location has.

    The QRA Locator had only one letter after the numbers, while the Mdh
    locator has originally two.

    It has later been expanded with more letters to give a more exact
    position, but to my knowledge, it's not used in ham radio.

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    Add coffee to that, hi.


    CU L8ER,

    Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Wed Oct 12 22:15:00 2016
    10-08-16 11:39 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Worldtime.com
    Howdy! Holger,

    @MSGID: <57FA1E9A.14871.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Saturday 10-04-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

    Hi Ed,

    this sounds like you are talking about the Maidenhead Locators or
    the old QRA Locator...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRA_locator

    I never heard the term "Maidenhead Locator System" B4, I think
    HamGrid is what I've heard it called by.

    The Maidenhead locator is a new more exact version of the QRA Locator,
    and it covers the entire world. The QRA Locator was originally
    configured to cover only Europe.

    I suppose everyone knows about the Maidenhead Locator System but me.
    I've known about the XX##xx Grid Number System for some time now, just
    never heard it called Maidenhead.

    What I've been looking for is information about what I remember of a Map
    being divided in Grids and the Grids were divided into Cells.
    The Cells were named XX##, they didn't have the extra xx added.

    There is an older man at Church I need to ask about that map/grid system, because I've learned that He has (had) a Private Pilot's License.
    He may know of what I remember seeing in the late 1950's, early 1960's.

    I used QRZ.COM and learned that the place I remembered in the EJ
    grid is also in the EM78 grid, it just has a different set of Lower
    Case Letters after it than what my location has.

    The QRA Locator had only one letter after the numbers, while the Mdh locator has originally two.

    O.K.

    It has later been expanded with more letters to give a more exact position, but to my knowledge, it's not used in ham radio.

    Oh, O.K., I was thinking Mdh and HamGrid were the same.
    I sit corrected (again). Thanks.

    73 . .

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Fri Oct 14 21:36:00 2016
    In a message on Friday 10-12-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    I suppose everyone knows about the Maidenhead Locator System but me.

    If you want to see where you are in the Maidenhead locator, surf to www.dxmaps.com and choose the part of the world,you want to see.

    I have not checked if you also can convert your latitude and longitude
    to your own locator, but if not holler, and I'll find out a program for
    you.

    I used QRZ.COM and learned that the place I remembered in the EJ
    grid is also in the EM78 grid, it just has a different set of Lower
    Case Letters after it than what my location has.

    Oh, O.K., I was thinking Mdh and HamGrid were the same.
    I sit corrected (again). Thanks.

    Maybe they are, but I don't know the MdH locator by that name.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Mon Oct 17 19:59:00 2016
    10-14-16 21:36 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Worldtime.com
    Howdy! Holger,

    @MSGID: <58020798.14894.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Friday 10-12-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    I suppose everyone knows about the Maidenhead Locator System but me.

    If you want to see where you are in the Maidenhead locator, surf to www.dxmaps.com and choose the part of the world,you want to see.

    The other day I found another website that shows Maidenhead Locators for
    the Earth.
    After saving this message I will look for the URL and enter another message
    to You with it.

    I have not checked if you also can convert your latitude and longitude
    to your own locator, but if not holler, and I'll find out a program for you.

    I found a webpage to do that also.

    I used QRZ.COM and learned that the place I remembered in the EJ
    grid is also in the EM78 grid, it just has a different set of Lower
    Case Letters after it than what my location has.

    Oh, O.K., I was thinking Mdh and HamGrid were the same.
    I sit corrected (again). Thanks.

    Maybe they are, but I don't know the MdH locator by that name.

    Look up Your Call Sign on QRZ to see the Ham Grid map.
    It isn't the map on the top right side, HamGrid is the second map below that first one.

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    I identify with that phrase.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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