In a message on Tuesday 09-13-16 at 00:02 Ed Vance said to Ben Ritchey:

Howdy! Ben,

Welcome, forget the postage and you can keep the HD for your next
project lol

O.K., I will keep the HD.

............


Hi Ed,

Long time no read. This echo seems to be almost abandoned.

There have been no messages since the one dated above, until the one
dated oct. 2nd to Ben.

Both arrived today, oct.4th.

I admit that I have'nt put in any new msgs into this echo, since the
discussion has been about a HD for your W95 laptop, and I haven't had
anything to add to that, since I mentioned my daughters PC with a 40Gb
HD.

I'm still checking the echo every day, but it has been empty.

The same goes for the WINDOWS echo.

Where have all the people gone??

Especially I miss Jean, and Alan.

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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Hi! Holger,

On 10/04/2016 09:41 AM, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Especially I miss Jean, and Alan.

Like you and Jean, I have been scanning this echo all along. Just lurking, with nothing to say.[gulp]

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger. The Bathurst 1000 carnival starts tomorrow (my time), and goes on through to the main race on Sunday. Keep an eye out for it in your TV guide(s). :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Like you and Jean, I have been scanning this echo all along. Just lurking, with nothing to say.[gulp]

As one who made a good living as a consultant for international companies using early Windows adaptations for more than a decade by then, I must admit that I have to categorize myself into that very same group.

Nice to make your acquaintance -- as if we didn't already make that more than a decade ago... 8-)



..

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Hi! Björn,

On 10/05/2016 10:59 PM, you wrote:

Like you and Jean, I have been scanning this echo all along. Just
lurking, with nothing to say.[gulp]

As one who made a good living as a consultant for international companies using early Windows adaptations for more than a decade by
then, I must admit that I have to categorize myself into that very same group.

In this echo's case, Ed's adventures with computers take on the character of some Indiana Jones. Like a good novel it's hard to put down or let go.

Nice to make your acquaintance -- as if we didn't already make that more than a decade ago... 8-)

Errrr... yep. And here I thought was a 'safe' hideaway. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Errrr... yep. And here I thought was a 'safe' hideaway. ;)

You can run as much as you want, but I'll be still all over you. Been there,
done that, didn't even get a t-shirt to prove it. 8-)




..

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In a message on Thursday 10-05-16 Paul Quinn said to Holger Granholm:

Good evening Paul,

Nice to read you again.

Like you and Jean, I have been scanning this echo all along. Just
lurking, with nothing to say.[gulp]

Knowing that Jean recently had a blockage in the arteries from/to the
heart, and that he is only one year younger than I, makes me worry about
how he's recovering.

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger. The Bathurst
1000 carnival starts tomorrow (my time), and goes on through to the
main race on Sunday. Keep an eye out for it in your TV guide(s).
:)

Oh yes I know. My GS is apparently reading some motor news that I don't
know about, and he told me about it. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm following the program listings on MotorsTV, (thanks for the URL),
but on tuesday they did only have info up to sept. 10, and I saw no
signs of Bathurst up to that date, neither did they have a week listing extending beyond sept 7th.

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, since usually they do
have a new listing on thursdays.

On the Windows front, I'm progressing, and hoping it wouldn't do its old-time-tricks of suddently removing programs. That happened on the
laptop a couple of days ago.

On the stationary machine it was still working yesterday, knock-on-wood!

A couple of days ago, it had made the VLC progran unusable, so I had to reinsltall it. I got the original icon on the bottom line, but the icon
on the desktop, the VLC icon still tells me that the shortcut doesn't
work, because it can't find VLC.exe, even though it's still and now in
the original directory. Oh well, Windows!!!

I did also buy a speaker set, so I didn't have to wear headphones, while listening to music, and the videos Johan (the GS), sent me from the
birthday present, driving different sportcars on a track, that he
received from his wife, Melissa.

Melissa got a permanent job at the St. G”rans hospital, and recently she
also got her original title back, that one she had at the US hospital,
where she worked b4 moving to Sweden.

On the speaker front, I bought a similar set that I have bought a couple
of years ago for my 23" LED TV, that does have a built-in DVD reader.

I have been satisfied with them, but when I connected the new set to the stationary computer I got very distorted sound. I did connect them to the laptop, same distorted sound.

Then, I connected the new set to the TV, instead of the earlier ones.
Nice and clean audio from the same DVD as b4.


Have a nice evening,

Holger

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Hi! Holger,

On 10/06/2016 09:45 AM, you wrote:

Good evening Paul,

Spot on, Holger! Good evening to you too.

Knowing that Jean recently had a blockage in the arteries from/to the heart, and that he is only one year younger than I, makes me worry about how he's recovering.

If he'd reading (and I do know he is), then he is fine and doing well.

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger.

[ ...trimmed... ]

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, since usually they do
have a new listing on thursdays.

Cool. Apparently this year's trophy will be celebrating Peter Brock's memory.

On the Windows front, I'm progressing, and hoping it wouldn't do its old-time-tricks of suddently removing programs. That happened on the laptop a couple of days ago.

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard advising that the warranty had expired, and, also being bugged by Avast warnings about renewing my registration. There were other reasons similar to yours...

Windows used to take some sort of perverted pleasure from alternately killing running programs. The affected programs included: a binkD point (just the mailer, nothing else behind it); also, a BOINC manager running a couple of SETI
jobs; and, the easiest to notice when -not- running were some desktop "gadgets"
providing an analogue clock and a couple of graph meters measuring network & memory usage.

But the crunch for Windows was when it started to kill off running VirtualBox PCs just for kicks. That I couldn't stand. I knew then that Windows didn't have a future for me on that machine.

Windows was probably running a background timer compiling statistics for M$, to
see how long it took me to notice something was missing.

On the stationary machine it was still working yesterday, knock-on-wood!

Watch for splinters! :)

A couple of days ago, it had made the VLC progran unusable, so I had to reinsltall it. I got the original icon on the bottom line, but the icon
on the desktop, the VLC icon still tells me that the shortcut doesn't work, because it can't find VLC.exe, even though it's still and now in
the original directory. Oh well, Windows!!!

I've had mixed results with VLC just in the last week, with my new Linux configuration. But with regard to Windows, I think there's dialogue via a right-click & properties to show Windows where that shortcut can find the .exe file.

[ ...some personal text removed... ]

On the speaker front, I bought a similar set that I have bought a couple of years ago for my 23" LED TV, that does have a built-in DVD reader.

Mmm...

I have been satisfied with them, but when I connected the new set to the stationary computer I got very distorted sound. I did connect them to the laptop, same distorted sound.

Mmm...

Then, I connected the new set to the TV, instead of the earlier ones.
Nice and clean audio from the same DVD as b4.

Ah-ha! It was probably the act of multiple unplug & plug-in actions that helped. Or, the elevation of the moon. That's about the level of my knowledge
of electronics. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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10-04-16 09:41 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Holger,

In a message on Tuesday 09-13-16 at 00:02 Ed Vance said to Ben Ritchey:

-snip-

Hi Ed,

Long time no read. This echo seems to be almost abandoned.

There have been no messages since the one dated above, until the one
dated oct. 2nd to Ben.

Both arrived today, oct.4th.

I wrote some messages in other echos but finally did enter a message about worldtime that You commented to me about in another message here.

I admit that I have'nt put in any new msgs into this echo, since the discussion has been about a HD for your W95 laptop, and I haven't had anything to add to that, since I mentioned my daughters PC with a 40Gb
HD.

Me 2

I'm still checking the echo every day, but it has been empty.

The same goes for the WINDOWS echo.

I've been lax on reading .QWK packets but have been grabbing them,
some days two packets, some times I'll miss a day or two before I check
for a packet.

Where have all the people gone??

Especially I miss Jean, and Alan.

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.
I never tried Joining that echo.
I will have a look see at the echo list here.

Ham Radio QRP: Life is too short for QRP.

QRO then. .... ..

73 de Ed W9ODR . .

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It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access. Let me know if you do. :)

Mike
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In a message on Saturday 10-06-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.
I never tried Joining that echo.

I don't think you can join that echo, since the rules say it's a sysop
only echo, and your node and name should be included in the NODELIST.

Ham Radio QRP: Life is too short for QRP.

QRO then. .... ..

._. ._.


CU AGN, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Saturday 10-07-16 Paul Quinn said to Holger Granholm:

Good evening Paul,

Spot on, Holger! Good evening to you too.

Thanks.

Knowing that Jean recently had a blockage in the arteries from/to the heart, and that he is only one year younger than I, makes me worry about how he's recovering.

If he'd reading (and I do know he is), then he is fine and doing
well.

I can only hope that he's doing as well as I, since I had the same
trouble in 2008, and still doing the daily (except rainy) 10 km nordic
walks, or 40 km bike tours, and snow permitting 10 km ski tours.

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger.

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, .......

Only a listing for next week, but no Bathurst there, but however when I
checked MotorsTV.com at home the next day, there were lstings for three
weeks. With a looking glass, I could see that the first instance of the HiLights will be broadcast on oct. 16th.

No Live broadcasts as earlier years, of the (V8)Supercars races :o(

Cool. Apparently this year's trophy will be celebrating Peter
Brock's memory.

May he RIP.

On the Windows front, I'm progressing, and hoping it wouldn't do its old-time-tricks of suddently removing programs.

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard
advising that the warranty had expired, and, also being bugged by
Avast warnings about renewing my registration.

The other day, Windows 10 decided to upgrade, by itself on the
stationary machine. I still don't know if that was the anniversary
upgrade that I have read about, but ZoneAlarm, nor AVG did inform me,
about an incoming connection,

I know that on the laptop, I have set the configuration to not allow
updates without my consent, but I'll have to check the configuration of
the stationary machine.

On an old laptop with XP, ZA always asked me to allow or disallow any in
or outgoing connections, but neither the laptop nor stationary machines,
with Win10, have so far given such warnings.

Windows used to take some sort of perverted pleasure from
alternately killing running programs. .........

This was not the first time it did allow upgrades, but when AVG did it,
I didn't have any objections.

But the crunch for Windows was when it started to kill off running VirtualBox PCs just for kicks. That I couldn't stand. I knew then
that Windows didn't have a future for me on that machine.

This only shows, why I will never allow Windows to run my BBS.

Watch for splinters! :)

As you see above, I do <BG>.

A couple of days ago, it had made the VLC progran unusable, .....

I've had mixed results with VLC just in the last week, with my new
Linux configuration. But with regard to Windows, I think there's
dialogue via a right-click & properties to show Windows where that
shortcut can find the .exe file.

I still have to learn much about all those tricks, Windows does in store

On the speaker front, I bought a similar set that I have bought a couple of years ago for my 23" LED TV, that does have a built-in DVD reader.

Mmm...

Then, I connected the new set to the TV, instead of the earlier ones.
Nice and clean audio from the same DVD as b4.

Ah-ha! It was probably the act of multiple unplug & plug-in actions
that helped. Or, the elevation of the moon. .........

I don't think that was the case. The power was disconnected between the
moves.

Me thinks that maybe the computer generated sound is digital, but I have
yet to find out the cause.


Have a good night,

Holger

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Mike,

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access. Let me know if you do. :)

With the BBS packages I've run (GT Power, Synchronet, and now VADV32), I
used to set the [ADM] and Sysop areas for Confirmed Visiting Sysops. Now,
I just set them to my level (255, the highest allowed)...then no one else
gets access to them. Besides, if the Visiting Sysop is part of a same BBS message network that I am, they should have that area, and be able to reply
to it, on their BBS.

As a side note, I know that GT Power handles netmail and echomail
differently than FIDONet...and one HAS to be running GT Power software
to get the netmail and echomail. I knew that current developer Tom Watt
had made it freeware for non-commercial use, but that the GT Power Sysop
echoes and the netmail programs were PROPRIETARY for GT Power Sysops. But,
I think he was going to get away from any further development on the
netmail programs, and messages would be transferred by QWK Networking
with the BGNet utility (I think B.J. Guiliot made that freeware awhile
back, but I'm not sure...I know BGFAX is now freeware). Former GT Sysop
Bill Watts had files on his system that allowed GT Sysops to integrate
FIDONet style networks into their system.

Over here, while the FIDONet to GT utilities are available to all users,
I've kept the Netmail programs access ONLY to Confirmed GT Power Sysops,
who provide the garbled Netmail password for versions 14-19.

Daryl

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10-07-16 18:40 Mike Powell wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Mike,

@MSGID: <57F8CD0F.14867.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access. Let me
know if you do. :)

I looked at the CCO BBS Echo List MultiMail shows me by pressing the L Key.

The List didn't have the Sysop echo in it. As it shouldn't.

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about me
since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

^Don't take the above lines seriously, I don't have a cereal bone in my body.^

In the List I saw several GT echos, occasionally Daryl will post messages
in the GT_HamRadio echo, but that is about all the messages I can recall
seeing from the GT Network.

I'm wondering if You see any other traffic coming in on the GT Net? Thanks.

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Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about me
since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

Uh-oh, Holger, Ben, and Paul... Ed is on to us! :O

<GRIN>

Mike

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Hi! Mike,

On 10 Oct 16 19:16, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

Uh-oh, Holger, Ben, and Paul... Ed is on to us! :O

<GRIN>

Yikes! I'll have to quit using -that- faourite 'Ed' tagline. Blast! ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

... Help Conserve the Earth - it's the only planet with chocolate.
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Ed,

In the List I saw several GT echos, occasionally Daryl will post
messages in the GT_HamRadio echo, but that is about all the messages I can recall seeing from the GT Network.

I'm wondering if You see any other traffic coming in on the GT Net?

I do postings in the non-GT Sysop echoes of the GT Net...including the
ones on ham radio, puns, classic ads (Burma Shave), weather history, and bloopers.

I had to do a special command line deal for the QWK Networking on the
export of packets...so, I hope it's working. I'm connecting to Mike
Powell via Internet Rex, but I don't know if the stuff is transferring or
not.

Daryl

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10-06-16 08:29 Paul Quinn wrote to Bj..rn Felten about Old careers vs.new! Howdy! Paul,

@MSGID: <57F62A18.14861.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <57F57A3B.14858.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Hi! Bj..rn,

On 10/05/2016 10:59 PM, you wrote:

Like you and Jean, I have been scanning this echo all along. Just
lurking, with nothing to say.[gulp]

As one who made a good living as a consultant for international companies using early Windows adaptations for more than a decade by
then, I must admit that I have to categorize myself into that very same group.

In this echo's case, Ed's adventures with computers take on the
character of some Indiana Jones. Like a good novel it's hard to put
down or let go.

I may live in Indiana but I am more like SPIKE Jones ain't I?


... It's as easy as 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841!
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10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Sam,

@MSGID: <57FA1E98.14868.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Saturday 10-06-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

I am not sure if I have access to the sysop echo on this BBS.
I never tried Joining that echo.

I don't think you can join that echo, since the rules say it's a sysop only echo, and your node and name should be included in the NODELIST.

Yes, I'm a BBS User, but glad that I can be one.

Ham Radio QRP: Life is too short for QRP.

QRO then. .... ..

._. ._.

I'm glad You liked my response to Your Tagline.

73 de the big LID, W9ODR . . -.-

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10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Paul Quinn about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <57FA1E99.14869.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Saturday 10-07-16 Paul Quinn said to Holger Granholm:

Good evening Paul,

Spot on, Holger! Good evening to you too.

Thanks.

Knowing that Jean recently had a blockage in the arteries from/to the heart, and that he is only one year younger than I, makes me worry about how he's recovering.

If he'd reading (and I do know he is), then he is fine and doing
well.

I can only hope that he's doing as well as I, since I had the same
trouble in 2008, and still doing the daily (except rainy) 10 km nordic walks, or 40 km bike tours, and snow permitting 10 km ski tours.

Thanks for letting me know about Jean.
At least Paul knows Jean is logging in to His BBS.

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger.

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, .......

I am not a fan of Automobile Racing, but I hope You and Paul like watching
the races, and the Drivers all drive across the Finish Line.
-snip-

On the Windows front, I'm progressing, and hoping it wouldn't do its old-time-tricks of suddently removing programs.

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard advising that the warranty had expired, and, also being bugged by
Avast warnings about renewing my registration.

The other day, Windows 10 decided to upgrade, by itself on the
stationary machine. I still don't know if that was the anniversary
upgrade that I have read about, but ZoneAlarm, nor AVG did inform me, about an incoming connection,

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like WinTen does,
"Get 'Em All In One Big File", No Option to choose from those that are
proven to be Safe.

I recently learned their MSRT program isn't offered for my XP box any more. Vista is as low as MS offers that utility.

I was thinking that MS would at least still offer that Malicious Software Removal Tool for the XP box but my experience the other day taught me
that they don't care to protect what they sell.

And I'm too cheap to buy a pc with a 'Newer' OS that MS wants to Control
from their HQ.

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what makes them work. I ain't done it yet, but I'm still at it.

I hope You can Tame the savage beast.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... I'm at the corner of WALK and DON'T WALK...
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10-11-16 21:35 Paul Quinn wrote to Mike Powell about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Paul,

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@REPLY: <57FCC190.14874.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Hi! Mike,

On 10 Oct 16 19:16, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

Uh-oh, Holger, Ben, and Paul... Ed is on to us! :O

<GRIN>

Yikes! I'll have to quit using -that- faourite 'Ed' tagline. Blast!
;)

Go ahead and continue using that Tagline with my blessings.
I don't mind.


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10-11-16 22:07 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Daryl,

@MSGID: <57FEB4C3.14876.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Ed,

In the List I saw several GT echos, occasionally Daryl will post
messages in the GT_HamRadio echo, but that is about all the messages I can recall seeing from the GT Network.

I'm wondering if You see any other traffic coming in on the GT Net?

I do postings in the non-GT Sysop echoes of the GT Net...including
the ones on ham radio, puns, classic ads (Burma Shave), weather
history, and bloopers.

I see the Burma Shave ads that You post in the Memories echo, and I read
the Ham Radio echo, the weather history echo sounds like it would be of interest to me, so I will check it out.

I had to do a special command line deal for the QWK Networking on the export of packets...so, I hope it's working. I'm connecting to Mike
Powell via Internet Rex, but I don't know if the stuff is transferring
or not.

Ya got it working O.K. all the way through Mike's BBS.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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| I do postings in the non-GT Sysop echoes of the GT Net...including the
| ones on ham radio, puns, classic ads (Burma Shave), weather history, and
| bloopers.
+-[DS=>EV]

Daryl,
I did some checking... looks like your echos dried up on this end at the end
of July. Seems like the last time you were running VA we had trouble. I
think it was because VA wants to import AND export QWK packets for QWK networking, where most all other systems (I know of) expect to import REP
and export QWK, or vise-versa.

I think we overcame that when you set up something on your end to rename
the QWK packets to REP on your end before uploading them?

As long as you are pointing to capcity2.synchro.net with IREX, and
transfering via FTP, you should at least see it connecting and making the transfers.

Mike

##Mmr 2.61(beta). !link DS 10-11-16 22:07


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In a message on Wednesday 10-09-16 Ed Vance said to Mike Powell:

GE Ed,

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access.
Let me know if you do. :)

The List didn't have the Sysop echo in it. As it shouldn't.

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

I haven't written anything about you in that echo, and I haven't seen
anybody else having done that.


GN 2 U,

Sam, OH0NC
aka Holger

___
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10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Paul Quinn about Re: Old mail and new!

[..]

The other day, Windows 10 decided to upgrade, by itself on the
stationary machine. I still don't know if that was the anniversary EV>HG> upgrade that I have read about, but ZoneAlarm, nor AVG did inform me EV>HG> about an incoming connection,

All you have to do for that is change your upgrade settings; i.e., download, but do not install without your okay. I do that here.

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like WinTen
does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File", No Option to choose from those that are proven to be Safe.

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

[...]

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what
makes them work. I ain't done it yet, but I'm still at it.

That takes me back. Too bad they couldn't produce a more affordable Amiga. That was a heck of a machine, but no one was writing programs for it.


Regards,

Roger

--- DB 3.99 + W10 (1607)
* Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)

In a message on Wednesday 10-09-16 Ed Vance said to Mike Powell:

GE Ed,

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access.
Let me know if you do. :)

The List didn't have the Sysop echo in it. As it shouldn't.

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about HG>EV> me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

I haven't written anything about you in that echo, and I haven't seen anybody else having done that.

As far as I know, that is true. I haven't seen a thing about Ed in any of the SYSOP echoes, which could also mean they don't know he exists. Obviously a blessing in disguise. (-:

... Barber sign: If your hair is not becoming, you should be coming to us.


Regards,

Roger

--- DB 3.99 + W10 (1607)
* Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)

Hi! Ed,

On 12 Oct 16 22:20, you wrote to me:

Uh-oh, Holger, Ben, and Paul... Ed is on to us! :O

<GRIN>

Yikes! I'll have to quit using -that- faourite 'Ed' tagline.
Blast! ;)

Go ahead and continue using that Tagline with my blessings.
I don't mind.

It's all good, Ed. I only use it on special occasions. :) Here it is, below...

Cheers,
Paul.

... Ed Vance: Tagline Thievery Criminal since 1994.
--- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
* Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)

On 10/13/16, Roger Nelson said the following...

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't
believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

I agree. All six of the systems here run either Win 7 or 10 (except one
Ubuntu laptop) and I don't have issues with any of that. When Microsoft was pushing REALLY hard on the free 7 to 10 updates I used a utility to disable
it on my BBS laptop that I was using at the time but haven't had any issues.
My BBS is currently on a Win7 PC and I have 100% uptime except for when I
have done manual updates or added hardware.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

On Thu Oct-13-2016 13:19, Richard Miles (1:3634/24) wrote to Roger Nelson:

On 10/13/16, Roger Nelson said the following...

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't
believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

I agree. All six of the systems here run either Win 7 or 10 (except
one Ubuntu laptop) and I don't have issues with any of that. When Microsoft was pushing REALLY hard on the free 7 to 10 updates I
used a utility to disable it on my BBS laptop that I was using at
the time but haven't had any issues. My BBS is currently on a Win7
PC and I have 100% uptime except for when I have done manual
updates or added hardware.

Or a power failure. They happen a lot around here, which is why I haven't done
a defrag in a while.


Regards,

Roger
--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ W10 (1607)
* Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)

10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Paul Quinn about Re: Old

mail and

new!

[..]

The other day, Windows 10 decided to upgrade, by itself on the
stationary machine. I still don't know if that was the anniversary EV>HG> upgrade that I have read about, but ZoneAlarm, nor AVG did inform me EV>HG> about an incoming connection,

All you have to do for that is change your upgrade settings; i.e.,

download,

but do not install without your okay. I do that here.

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like WinTen does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File", No Option to choose from those

that

are proven to be Safe.

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

Regards,

Roger

Some win7 computers have been changed to the non approval automatic
updates.
Here is a blip form MS:

The July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and
Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 was re-released on September 13, 2016 to
address an issue in one of the included updates and to improve the
overall reliability of the update rollup. Installing this update requires
a restart after installation.

Important If you use Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or System
Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) to deploy updates, you have
Automatically approve new revisions of approved updates enabled on your
WSUS or SCCM environment, and you have already deployed KB3172605
automatically when it was initially released in July 2016, this revision
will automatically deploy and require a restart after installation. You
can disable the automatic approval setting for this update rollup if you
don't intend to automatically deploy the revision of this update rollup
and its required restart. Please notice that disabling this setting would require a manual review and approval of any revisions.



--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: DocsPlace.org Since 1991 | QWK VIA Web Browser (1:123/140)

Ed,

I see the Burma Shave ads that You post in the Memories echo, and I
read the Ham Radio echo, the weather history echo sounds like it would
be of interest to me, so I will check it out.

I originally got the data from a file from the Storm Prediction Center.
Data after 1990 is PARTIAL, but fairly comprehensive before then.

Ya got it working O.K. all the way through Mike's BBS.

Well, I saw a message from Mike Powell, and apparently the data "dried up"
in late July, when Synchronet crashed...and I went back to Virtual Advanced.
I redid a batchfile to process the outgoing packet, and even ran each deal
by hand to be sure that it worked. Yet, while I'm connecting to Mike's
system, nothing is transferring. So, my IREX settings may be skewed.

Daryl

... I xeroxed my watch. Now, I have time to spare.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50

--- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
* Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS (1:19/33)

Mike,

I did some checking... looks like your echos dried up on this end at
the end of July. Seems like the last time you were running VA we had trouble. I think it was because VA wants to import AND export QWK
packets for QWK networking, where most all other systems (I know of) expect to import REP and export QWK, or vise-versa.

I think we overcame that when you set up something on your end to
rename the QWK packets to REP on your end before uploading them?

As long as you are pointing to capcity2.synchro.net with IREX, and transfering via FTP, you should at least see it connecting and making
the transfers.

It is connecting, but nothing seems to be transferring.

Late July was when Synchronet crashed on me big time, and I went back
to VADV32.

I noted a REP packet in an directory, but it was over 2 months old.

Here's the IREX setup I have:

Site Name: capcity2.synchro.net
User Name: ******* (asterisked out)
Password: ******** (asterisked out)
Site's Hours: 0:00-24:00
Lock File Size: 1 byte
Unique storage: No
Filename Case: Don't care
Script Type: Automatic (constructed by Rex)
Dest. Directory: (blank -- does something need to go here??)
Directory Locking: Do not use directory locking

I'm rechecking a batchfile that I got from Steve Winn, and modifying
it for my use. This is what I have, so if things need to be corrected,
please let me know.

***

C:
CD\VA
REM VQWK IS VADV'S QWK MAIL PROCESSOR. THE 9 IS A SPECIAL SYSTEM
REM ACCOUNT FOR IT, AND 73 IS THE INTERNAL NETWORK ID
VQWK.EXE 0 /EXPORT=C:\VA\REP\CAPCITY2.REP,9 NETWORKID=73
GOTO CONVERT
:CONVERT
REM PKUNZIP TAKES THE INITIAL CAPCITY2.REP FILE, UNZIPS IT, AND
REM TAKES OUT THE MESSAGES.DAT FILE, DELETES THE ORIGINAL CAPCITY2.REP
REM FILE, CONVERTS THE ORIGINAL MESSAGES.DAT FILE TO CAPCITY2.REP,
REM THEN RE-ZIPS CAPCITY2.REP WITH CAPCITY2.MSG, AND MOVES THE
REM CAPCITY2.REP FILE TO THE OUTGOING AREA FOR IREX TO HANDLE.
CD\VA\REP
PKUNZIP.EXE -o C:\VA\REP\CAPCITY2.REP MESSAGES.DAT
CD\VA
VQWK2REP.EXE CAPCITY2 C:\VA\REP
CD\VA\REP
IF EXIST MESSAGES.DAT DEL MESSAGES.DAT
IF EXIST CAPCITY2.REP DEL CAPCITY2.REP
IF NOT EXIST CAPCITY2.MSG GOTO FINISH
PKZIP.EXE -m CAPCITY2.REP CAPCITY2.MSG
IF EXIST CAPCITY2.REP MOVE CAPCITY2.REP C:\VA\FIDOMAIL\OUT\GTPNAUTO
IF EXIST CAPCITY2.MSG DEL CAPCITY2.MSG

I ran each of these lines by hand, so it should work properly.

Yet, when I ran a deal for IREX to send, it connected to your
system, but nothing seemed to transfer.

Daryl

... I *CAN* type...my computer keyboard is illiterate.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50

--- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
* Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS (1:19/33)

In a message on Friday 10-12-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger.

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, .......

I am not a fan of Automobile Racing, but I hope You and Paul like
watching the races, and the Drivers all drive across the Finish

The Bathurst race is one of the hightlites on the racing calendar.

I can also tell you Ed, that the form of racing in VK and ZL, is totally different from the oval races in the US.

I really enjoy looking at the races, since the drivers are more
disciplined, and the rules don't allow any pushing of competitors.

The same goes for most international and british races.

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard advising that the warranty had expired, and, also being bugged by
Avast warnings about renewing my registration.

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments
on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like
WinTen does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File",
No Option to choose from those that are proven to be Safe.

Consequently, you both missed the boat, while an upgrade to 10 was free!
Since XPp I have not used any intermediate version of Windows, until I
received a Dell laptop with Win 10 as a xmas present from my GS.

After noting that it is a viable upgrade, I didn't waste any time to buy
a stationary machine with Win7 and upgraded it to Win10 for free.

The problems I've had, are related to moving to new programs that don't
work as the ones I have for OS/2, for example moving from PMMail to Thunderbird. There I've received help from Paul, and from Jean for the shorthands to call up functions/programmes in Win10.

I was thinking that MS would at least still offer that Malicious
Software Removal Tool for the XP box but my experience the other day
taught me that they don't care to protect what they sell.

There are free programs for that purpose, but of course not everything
that glitters is gold. I did recently learn that Malware is free only
for a limited time.

AD-aware has gone from an anti-ad software, to a 'full-fledged' virus
program. I was only interested in the anti-ad property, since I have AVG installed on both Win10 machines, as well as ZoneAlarm.

And I'm too cheap to buy a pc with a 'Newer' OS that MS wants to
Control from their HQ.

Suit yourself, anyway you did miss the free boat, hi.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

---
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* Origin: Coming to you from the Sunny Aland Islands. (2:20/228)

In a message on Friday 10-13-16 Roger Nelson said to Ed Vance:

Good morning Roger,

..., but ZoneAlarm, nor AVG did inform me about an incoming
connection,

All you have to do for that is change your upgrade settings; i.e., download, but do not install without your okay. I do that here.

Yes I know, but I haven't found that setting, even though I have tried.

Today came another upgrade, and I could read the report of what it had upgraded. Nothing alarming there.

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what
makes them work.

That takes me back. Too bad they couldn't produce a more affordable
Amiga. That was a heck of a machine, but no one was writing programs
for it.

I agree, my GS had one, and there is still an Amiga DOS manual on the bookshelf.

The reason why nobody wrote programs for it, was that it was considered
to be only a game machine, as were the earlier Commodores.

There were in fact a few (a couple ?) office programs written for it,
but the Amiga never took off.

If it had, even OS/2 would have been superfluos. It was that capable.


Have a nice day,

Holger

___
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--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2
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In a message on Saturday 10-13-16 Tom Walker said to Roger Nelson:

Hi Tom,

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't

RN > believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

Some win7 computers have been changed to the non approval automatic updates.

Nice to read you again, and find that you are still as alert as before.


Have a nice evening,

CU AGN.

Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * A day without sunshine is like night.


--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2
* Origin: Coming to you from the Sunny Aland Islands. (2:20/228)

I am reading the msgs, here. =D

Lets warm up this area. =D

I would like to point you folks my text editor:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_pR-HZ0Fp03NzhiQkJadWhzb2s

=D

I hope you folks like the text editor I love to use.

=D

Regards to you all!!!
Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance <=-

In a message on Tuesday 09-13-16 at 00:02 Ed Vance said to Ben Ritchey:

Howdy! Ben,

Welcome, forget the postage and you can keep the HD for your next
project lol

O.K., I will keep the HD.

............

Hi Ed,

Long time no read. This echo seems to be almost abandoned.

There have been no messages since the one dated above, until the one
dated oct. 2nd to Ben.

Both arrived today, oct.4th.

I admit that I have'nt put in any new msgs into this echo, since the discussion has been about a HD for your W95 laptop, and I haven't had anything to add to that, since I mentioned my daughters PC with a 40Gb
HD.

I'm still checking the echo every day, but it has been empty.

The same goes for the WINDOWS echo.

Where have all the people gone??

Especially I miss Jean, and Alan.

It would be nice to read/write in this echo too. As it has been now,
I have spent time reding/writing in the sysop echo.

73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * Ham Radio QRP: Life is too short for QRP.

--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2
* Origin: Coming to you from the Sunny Aland Islands. (2:20/228)

... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
___ MultiMail/Win32 v0.50

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10-12-16 08:57 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58000639.14884.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Wednesday 10-09-16 Ed Vance said to Mike Powell:

GE Ed,

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access.
Let me know if you do. :)

The List didn't have the Sysop echo in it. As it shouldn't.

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

I haven't written anything about you in that echo, and I haven't seen anybody else having done that.

Thanks Holger.

My comment to Mike was Tongue In Cheek, I was fairly sure I have never
crossed over the line to where any of You SysOps would discuss Ed V in
that echo.

I'm sure if there had been a Ed V discussion I couldn't Log On to any BBS.
^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^


... CCITT- Can't Conceive Intelligent Thoughts Today
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10-13-16 06:09 Roger Nelson wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Roger,

@MSGID: <58000639.14885.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>

10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Paul Quinn about Re: Old mail and new!

[..]

-snip-

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like WinTen
does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File", No Option to choose from those that are proven to be Safe.

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't
believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

I'm glad to hear Your W7 and W10 pcs are behaving.

Leo Notenboom says the same thing as You, but there are some comments to
His article on W10 that are about the same as what I read on Woody Leonhard's articles and comment sections.

[...]

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what makes them work. I ain't done it yet, but I'm still at it.

That takes me back. Too bad they couldn't produce a more affordable Amiga. That was a heck of a machine, but no one was writing programs
for it.

A employee at a Commodore PC Store demostrated how easy it was to draw a picture using the Amiga, but I didn't have the money to get an Amiga.

A friend of mine used C=64 GEOS to draw a picture of himself and his
Commodore gear to print on a Floppy Disk Jacket and gave a copy of it to me.

I tried to edit out the mustache in the image and made a big blank mess.

iirc When I moved (scrolled) the drawing, GEOS Saved the mess on the
floppy disk by writing over the original. DUH!
So I gave up on trying to use GEOS to make a drawing.

I tried using Paint in W3.1 to see if I could draw something and didn't
do any better than I did on GEOS64.

I'm not a Artist, although I use Irafanview a lot, but I don't try to
draw something using it, I use it to Edit and to Save or Print something
I find in my wanderings around on the internet.


... !!evirD-draH ym pu kcab nac I woN !!esrever dnuof I
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10-13-16 06:19 Roger Nelson wrote to Holger Granholm about Re: Old mail and
ew!
Howdy! Roger,

@MSGID: <58000639.14886.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <58000639.14884.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>

In a message on Wednesday 10-09-16 Ed Vance said to Mike Powell:

GE Ed,

No, as it is restricted to sysops you should not have access.
Let me know if you do. :)

The List didn't have the Sysop echo in it. As it shouldn't.

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

I haven't written anything about you in that echo, and I haven't seen anybody else having done that.

As far as I know, that is true. I haven't seen a thing about Ed in any
of the SYSOP echoes, which could also mean they don't know he exists. Obviously a blessing in disguise. (-:

H A L L E L U J A H ! ! ! ! ! ! !


... The Big Bang Theory: God spoke and **BANG** it happened!
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10-13-16 21:23 Paul Quinn wrote to Ed Vance about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Paul,

@MSGID: <58000639.14887.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Hi! Ed,

On 12 Oct 16 22:20, you wrote to me:

Uh-oh, Holger, Ben, and Paul... Ed is on to us! :O

<GRIN>

Yikes! I'll have to quit using -that- faourite 'Ed' tagline.
Blast! ;)

Go ahead and continue using that Tagline with my blessings.
I don't mind.

It's all good, Ed. I only use it on special occasions. :) Here it
is, below...

Cheers,
Paul.

... Ed Vance: Tagline Thievery Criminal since 1994.

I would had started my Hobby with-in the BBS Hobby earlier on the C=64 if I used a Reader PRG instead of a Terminal PRG on it.

The last Terminal PRG I used was called Bob's Term Pro and I liked it a lot.

I couldn't Steal Taglines but it had a big buffer that let me pause the BBS
so I could save the buffer to disk, and then do that over and over until all the messages in the BBS echos got saved, then I'd Log Off and start reading
the messages I saved to disk.

Using QWK is a lot better since it let me spend less time getting the
messages whether I was using Dial-Up or on the internet.

I use FTP to grab messages from this BBS and it takes less than a minute
to do it, then I can start reading.


... Johnson & Johnson Tagline: ...............
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On Sep Sep-08-1908 -08:-52, Holger Granholm (2:20/228) wrote to Roger Nelson:

In a message on Friday 10-13-16 Roger Nelson said to Ed Vance:

Hej, (I forgot the Swedish word for morning, but I'll take a refresher course).
I think it's m¢rgon, but am unsure.

[...]

All you have to do for that is change your upgrade settings; i.e., download, but do not install without your okay. I do that here.

Yes I know, but I haven't found that setting, even though I have
tried.

What version of Windows are you using on your OS/2 machine? (-:

Today came another upgrade, and I could read the report of what it
had upgraded. Nothing alarming there.

That's good.

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what
makes them work.

That takes me back. Too bad they couldn't produce a more affordable
Amiga. That was a heck of a machine, but no one was writing programs
for it.

I agree, my GS had one, and there is still an Amiga DOS manual on
the bookshelf.

The reason why nobody wrote programs for it, was that it was
considered to be only a game machine, as were the earlier
Commodores.

No matter what it was referred as, any computer with contiguous memory would have been a success, at least with me, but I'm only one person. When I was president of our local computer club, I had a friend bring his Amiga in for a demo to the rest of those who showed up and I can tell you I was impressd from the outset.

There were in fact a few (a couple ?) office programs written for
it, but the Amiga never took off.

I didn't know about those, but I was considering getting an Amiga until some computer programmer friends of mine talked me out of it. I did manage to convert an Amiga BASIC program so it would run on an IBM compatible.

If it had, even OS/2 would have been superfluos. It was that
capable.

Maybe so, but we'll never know.

Have a nice day,

You too.


Regards,

Roger
--- timEd/386 1.10+ W10 (1607)
* Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)

On Nov Sep-10-1908 -07:-25, Ed Vance (1:2320/105.1) wrote to Roger Nelson:

10-13-16 06:09 Roger Nelson wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail
and new! Howdy! Roger,

10-08-16 10:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Paul Quinn about Re: Old
mail and new!

[...]

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like WinTen
does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File", No Option to choose from those that are proven to be Safe.

That isn't true here with either Windows 7 or Windows 10, so don't
believe everything you read and only half of what you see. (-:

I'm glad to hear Your W7 and W10 pcs are behaving.

Behaving? That's another story. (-:

Leo Notenboom says the same thing as You, but there are some
comments to His article on W10 that are about the same as what I
read on Woody Leonhard's articles and comment sections.

If set up as I recommended, you should be presented with a list of Important and Optional updates. You may then choose the ones you want to update, but I take them all so I don't have to depend on M$ or my memory to remind me that something wasn't updated.

[...]

When I got the Commodore 64 back in 1984, I was wanting to learn what makes them work. I ain't done it yet, but I'm still at it.

That takes me back. Too bad they couldn't produce a more affordable Amiga. That was a heck of a machine, but no one was writing programs
for it.

A employee at a Commodore PC Store demostrated how easy it was to
draw a picture using the Amiga, but I didn't have the money to get
an Amiga.

I don't recall if that was one of the things demonstrated, but the color, stereo sound and contiguous memory were what grabbed my attention.

A friend of mine used C=64 GEOS to draw a picture of himself and
his Commodore gear to print on a Floppy Disk Jacket and gave a copy
of it to me.

Interesting.

I tried to edit out the mustache in the image and made a big blank
mess.

LOL!

iirc When I moved (scrolled) the drawing, GEOS Saved the mess on
the floppy disk by writing over the original. DUH!
So I gave up on trying to use GEOS to make a drawing.

Live and learn, Ed.

I tried using Paint in W3.1 to see if I could draw something and
didn't do any better than I did on GEOS64.

Technology wasn't there. That's why the Amiga was ahead of its time.

I'm not a Artist, although I use Irafanview a lot, but I don't try
to draw something using it, I use it to Edit and to Save or Print something I find in my wanderings around on the internet.

I can't even draw my own bath.


Regards,

Roger
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16 Oct 16 22:21, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

My comment to Mike was Tongue In Cheek, I was fairly sure I have never crossed over the line to where any of You SysOps would discuss Ed V in that echo.

I'm sure if there had been a Ed V discussion I couldn't Log On to any BBS.
^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^

you don't have anything to worry about, ed... you are always welcome over here on my system if no where else ;)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Vacuum: A large empty space where the Pope lives.
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Ed,

My comment to Mike was Tongue In Cheek, I was fairly sure I have never crossed over the line to where any of You SysOps would discuss Ed V in that echo.

I'm sure if there had been a Ed V discussion I couldn't Log On to any BBS.
^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^

You'd be welcome over here. :)

Daryl

... On my Train Of Thought, 99% are riding for half fare!!
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Ed,

I'm glad to hear Your W7 and W10 pcs are behaving.

I've got Windows 7 32-bit Professional on the BBS computer, and
also on my elderly Mom's computer (upgraded her system last week).

This week, I'm upgrading a laptop that I bought at the 2015
Shreveport Hamfest for $100, which currently has Windows Vista
Home Basic on it. It will be upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium,
32-bit as well.

I have no desire to go to Windows 10. If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Daryl

... No Virus Found. AARRGGHH!! I've got the No Virus!!
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Ed,

Using QWK is a lot better since it let me spend less time getting the messages whether I was using Dial-Up or on the internet.

I prefer using QWK Mail for the messages. I usually get to them first,
before I do any doorgame play or file area work.

Daryl

... My day's ruined when I put my left sock on my right foot.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50

--- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
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I'm sure if there had been a Ed V discussion I couldn't Log On to any

BBS.

^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^

you don't have anything to worry about, ed... you are always welcome over

here

on my system if no where else ;)

I have yet to kick him off of here. :)

Mike

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10-13-16 18:34 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Daryl,

@MSGID: <580157CA.14891.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Ed,

I see the Burma Shave ads that You post in the Memories echo, and I
read the Ham Radio echo, the weather history echo sounds like it would
be of interest to me, so I will check it out.

I originally got the data from a file from the Storm Prediction
Center. Data after 1990 is PARTIAL, but fairly comprehensive before
then.

Oh, O.K., I may still Join the WX echo to see what's there.

Ya got it working O.K. all the way through Mike's BBS.

Well, I saw a message from Mike Powell, and apparently the data
"dried up" in late July, when Synchronet crashed...and I went back to Virtual Advanced. I redid a batchfile to process the outgoing packet,
and even ran each deal by hand to be sure that it worked. Yet, while
I'm connecting to Mike's system, nothing is transferring. So, my IREX settings may be skewed.

You and Mike will figure it out.

TTBOMK it was You Two who toyed with the idea of transferring GT Net Mail Packets over the Internet and passed the technique over to FIDONET SysOps.

So I'm sure You All can figure it out and get it working as it should.

See Tagline.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... "It Shouldn't Be This Hard" - Leo Notenboom
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10-13-16 18:34 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Again Daryl,

... I xeroxed my watch. Now, I have time to spare.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50

--- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
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Do You like using MultiMail?

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages, without having to enter them in by hand.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... ..Br... d.m.g.. .. th..ks, . .lr..d. h.v. s.m....
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10-14-16 09:46 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58020798.14893.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Friday 10-12-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

Ahmm... the "Great Race" is on this weekend, Holger.

I do however expect a new weekly listing today, .......

I am not a fan of Automobile Racing, but I hope You and Paul like
watching the races, and the Drivers all drive across the Finish

The Bathurst race is one of the hightlites on the racing calendar.

I can also tell you Ed, that the form of racing in VK and ZL, is
totally different from the oval races in the US.

I really enjoy looking at the races, since the drivers are more disciplined, and the rules don't allow any pushing of competitors.

The same goes for most international and british races.

O.K.

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard advising that the warranty had expired, and, also being bugged by
Avast warnings about renewing my registration.

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments
on askwoody.com about Microsoft changing Win7 updates to be like
WinTen does, "Get 'Em All In One Big File",
No Option to choose from those that are proven to be Safe.

Consequently, you both missed the boat, while an upgrade to 10 was
free! Since XPp I have not used any intermediate version of Windows,
until I received a Dell laptop with Win 10 as a xmas present from my
GS.

I looked at Microsofts free WTEN offer as being like the Apple tied to a
string on a pole that was held over the donkeys head and just a tiny BIT farther away than the donkey's tongue could touch it.

To quote: "For what the big print giveth, the small print taketh away.".

After noting that it is a viable upgrade, I didn't waste any time to
buy a stationary machine with Win7 and upgraded it to Win10 for free.

The problems I've had, are related to moving to new programs that don't work as the ones I have for OS/2, for example moving from PMMail to Thunderbird. There I've received help from Paul, and from Jean for the shorthands to call up functions/programmes in Win10.

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand messages in
the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.
It didn't do that the several times I compacted messages before, but it sure did it that day.

I still use TB, I just move messages out of the In-Box to other Boxes I've
made for them.

I was thinking that MS would at least still offer that Malicious
Software Removal Tool for the XP box but my experience the other day taught me that they don't care to protect what they sell.

There are free programs for that purpose, but of course not everything that glitters is gold. I did recently learn that Malware is free only
for a limited time.

If You are speaking of MALWAREBYTES, they have a Free and a Paid version.
I use the Free and manually update the Definitions as I want to, the Paid version does that automagically.

AD-aware has gone from an anti-ad software, to a 'full-fledged' virus program. I was only interested in the anti-ad property, since I have
AVG installed on both Win10 machines, as well as ZoneAlarm.

Recently I read that AVAST! owns AVG now.
Have You read about that too?

And I'm too cheap to buy a pc with a 'Newer' OS that MS wants to
Control from their HQ.

Suit yourself, anyway you did miss the free boat, hi.

Enjoy the "Apple".

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... IBM: Invented By Murphy
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* An ongoing debate between Ed Vance and Daryl Stout rages on ...

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages, without having to enter them in by hand.

What do you use to grab the taglines?

-+-
Keep the faith :^)

Ben aka cMech Web: http|ftp|binkp|telnet://cmech.dynip.com
Email: fido4cmech(at)lusfiber.net
Home page: http://cmech.dynip.com/homepage/
WildCat! Board 24/7 +1-337-984-4794 any BAUD 8,N,1

... We all live in a yellow subroutine.
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In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

My comment to Mike was Tongue In Cheek, ....

I'd be very concerned doing that, being afraid to bite off my tongue.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'


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In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Rodrigo Cesar Banhara said to Holger
Granholm:

I am reading the msgs, here. =D

Good evening Rodrigo,

I would like to point you folks my text editor: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_pR-HZ0Fp03NzhiQkJadWhzb2s
I hope you folks like the text editor I love to use.

Nothing can beat the editor I'm using, The Semware editor that I have
extended with translations from/to ASCII, PC8, Latin-1 and Mac!


Have a good night,

Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * Say pistachios ... it's impolite to say nuts.


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18 Oct 16 18:15, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages,
without having to enter them in by hand.

What do you use to grab the taglines?

depending on the reader, it is but a simple single keystroke... but then you have folks like myself which copy and paste them from all sorts of sources... today i grabbed some 30 or so from stuff seen on twitter and g+... i'm planning
on dropping a refreshed load in the TAGLINES echo in another month or three ;) some have been removed, others have been typo corrected... others are completely new and never seen before O:)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Right now, People are eating pigs for lunch!
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In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Ed Vance said to Roger Nelson:

GE Ed,

A friend of mine used C=64 GEOS to draw a picture of himself and his Commodore gear to print on a Floppy Disk Jacket and gave a copy of
it to me.

I tried to edit out the mustache in the image and made a big blank
mess.

iirc When I moved (scrolled) the drawing, GEOS Saved the mess on the
floppy disk by writing over the original. DUH!
So I gave up on trying to use GEOS to make a drawing.

You should have renamed the original B4 starting to edit it, or saved
the redrawn copy as another name, if the 'Save as:' was available on
the C-64.


GN es CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * Bagel: a doughnut with rigor mortis.

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Ed,

TTBOMK it was You Two who toyed with the idea of transferring GT Net
Mail Packets over the Internet and passed the technique over to FIDONET SysOps.

So I'm sure You All can figure it out and get it working as it should.

A new problem has cropped up. VADV32's FIDONet tosser, VFIDO, is
apparently once again sending out duplicate MSGID's -- I had netmail
routing problems with it awhile back.

The options I have (most to least desireable) are as follows:

1) Try to switch the FIDONet style message networks to QWK
NETWORKING -- but not every FIDONet network has that. It
would be a hassle to switch this, as well as the hubs for
such.

2) REMOVE all the message networks, and make the BBS a
LOCAL MESSAGE BOARD only. The rest of the BBS would remain
the same.

3) Look into switching BBS software...but my options here
are limited:

a) GT Power does have telnet...but no website interface, and
no capability for email. Plus, I don't care for its QWK Mail
setup.

b) Synchronet crashed on me big time in late July...and with
the lack of support and documentation for Mystic, I really
don't want to mess with them.

c) There are so few telnet/web BBS packages out there anymore,
and I really don't want to have to learn a whole new setup;
never mind paying exhorbitant registration fees for some of
these packages.

3) Say "the hell with it", and shut everything down after
25+ years of Sysoping, virtually ending BBSing in Arkansas.

I don't know how long it will take to get a reply from
the developer of VADV32 (Steve Winn), or if anything can
be done. But, the future of the BBS hinges on it.

... "It Shouldn't Be This Hard" - Leo Notenboom

But, it is. <sigh!>

Daryl

... All those updates, and still imperfect!!!
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Ed,

Do You like using MultiMail?

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages, without having to enter them in by hand.

OLX crashed on a rather large QWK Packet, so that's why I went back
to MultiMail.

But, while the QWK Mail problem is solved, my FIDONet problem is not.
See the related message for details.

Daryl

... Apathy Error: Strike any key...or none, for that matter.
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10-18-16 18:15 Ben Ritchey wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Ben,

@MSGID: <58074D94.14912.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
* An ongoing debate between Ed Vance and Daryl Stout rages on ...

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages, without having to enter them in by hand.

What do you use to grab the taglines?

I press the T Key while reading a message in MultiMail.

Can't remember if it is the same Key in SLMR or if its the T Key with the
ALT Key. DUH!



... This tagline is bi-lingual. English and Australian.
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19 Oct 16 11:43, you wrote to Ed Vance:

A new problem has cropped up. VADV32's FIDONet tosser, VFIDO, is apparently once again sending out duplicate MSGID's -- I had netmail routing problems with it awhile back.

yo're looking at this too deeply or something... it appears that there's a simple serial number being used... it is incremented each time one is pulled...
the problem is that with all your switching back and forth from package to package and reinstalling and such, the counter starts over each time... ask steve where the counter is stored so you can edit it to a higher value and the duplication of serial numbers will be thwarted... i don't know if it is VFIDO that is putting the MSGID into the messages or not... i would think NOT because
it wouldn't be able to properly support the REPLY control lines but anyway, just figure out how to change that number and then keep up with that file in case you decide to switch again or have to reinstall VADV again...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... I'm a clinically depressed fecalphiliac on Prozac. - Kyle [South Park]
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10-18-16 09:40 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58074D9D.14914.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

Now I'll never know what You, Holger, Ben and Paul have said about
me since I can't read messages in the Sysop echo.

My comment to Mike was Tongue In Cheek, ....

I'd be very concerned doing that, being afraid to bite off my tongue.

That could happen.

* MR/2 2.30 * There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'

Which One?
Amateur Radio, Computer Use or something else? .... ..

73 de Ed W9ODR k


... Bug: 3. A known design feature that doesn't work properly.
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10-18-16 22:02 mark lewis wrote to Ben Ritchey about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Mark,

@MSGID: <58074D9D.14916.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <58074D94.14912.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
18 Oct 16 18:15, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Since You started using MM I can Grab the Taglines in Your messages,
without having to enter them in by hand.

What do you use to grab the taglines?

depending on the reader, it is but a simple single keystroke... but
then you have folks like myself which copy and paste them from all
sorts of sources... today i grabbed some 30 or so from stuff seen on twitter and g+... i'm planning on dropping a refreshed load in the TAGLINES echo in another month or three ;) some have been removed,
others have been typo corrected... others are completely new and never seen before O:)

I UnJoined the TAGLINE echo just a few days after I Joined it.

Some Users in the echo weren't members of the CTC (Clean Tagline Club).



... As I said last week, I'll be done tomorrow.
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10-18-16 11:52 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58074D9F.14917.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Ed Vance said to Roger Nelson:

GE Ed,

A friend of mine used C=64 GEOS to draw a picture of himself and his Commodore gear to print on a Floppy Disk Jacket and gave a copy of
it to me.

I tried to edit out the mustache in the image and made a big blank
mess.

iirc When I moved (scrolled) the drawing, GEOS Saved the mess on the floppy disk by writing over the original. DUH!
So I gave up on trying to use GEOS to make a drawing.

You should have renamed the original B4 starting to edit it, or saved
the redrawn copy as another name, if the 'Save as:' was available on
the C-64.

I was a Novice using GEOS and didn't know if I twitched the wrong way that
it would Update the Floppy for Me.

But You're Correct!, Never Work On The Only Copy Of A File, Make A Duplicate.

* MR/2 2.30 * Bagel: a doughnut with rigor mortis.

GOOD ONE!

I wonder if putting Honey on a Bagel would help?

73 de Ed W9ODR


... If you're trying to drive me crazy, you're too late!
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10-19-16 11:43 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!
Howdy! Daryl,

@MSGID: <58089F16.14921.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Ed,

TTBOMK it was You Two who toyed with the idea of transferring GT Net
Mail Packets over the Internet and passed the technique over to FIDONET SysOps.

So I'm sure You All can figure it out and get it working as it should.

A new problem has cropped up. VADV32's FIDONet tosser, VFIDO, is apparently once again sending out duplicate MSGID's -- I had netmail routing problems with it awhile back.

The options I have (most to least desireable) are as follows:

-Big Snip-

As I was reading those lines the thought came to me to ask someone in the SysOps echo, You might find some help there.

Has Mike mentioned to You what Me and Him have been writing about concerning MultiMail and SLMR not displaying messages in the Personal area?

You are not alone.

I don't know how long it will take to get a reply from
the developer of VADV32 (Steve Winn), or if anything can
be done. But, the future of the BBS hinges on it.

... "It Shouldn't Be This Hard" - Leo Notenboom

But, it is. <sigh!>

I'll say a BIG AMEN! to that.

Lately this XP computer has been Winning by Freezing Up the Desktop
and not even letting the Time update in the Taskbar.

I piddle and piddle with it but always have to do a Cold Boot to make
it work as it should.

No, I'm not ready to BOOT IT!, You can forget about asking me that.

.... ..

Hope Your BBS Troubles get ironed out, I know that You have enough
Troubles as is.

73 de Ed W9 Old Dirty Rat . .


... I don't eat fast food, but I can't live without pizza.
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21 Oct 16 21:55, you wrote to me:

depending on the reader, it is but a simple single keystroke... but
then you have folks like myself which copy and paste them from all
sorts of sources... today i grabbed some 30 or so from stuff seen on
twitter and g+... i'm planning on dropping a refreshed load in the
TAGLINES echo in another month or three ;) some have been removed,
others have been typo corrected... others are completely new and
never seen before O:)

I UnJoined the TAGLINE echo just a few days after I Joined it.

Some Users in the echo weren't members of the CTC (Clean Tagline Club).

you can clean those you don't like from your lists... i like all kinds and do have numerous raunchy ones that i've collected or written myself... i don't/won't take the time to do any filtering as they do not bother me... that and the fact that i don't know what "wirty dords" someone doesn't like or may find offensive... that's their thing and they know what they don't like when they see it... kinda like pr0n... i know what it is when i see it and a lot of what some call pr0n is nowhere near such in my book...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Canapes: A sandwich that's cut into 24 pieces.
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21 Oct 16 22:00, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

* MR/2 2.30 * Bagel: a doughnut with rigor mortis.

GOOD ONE!

I wonder if putting Honey on a Bagel would help?

it does not... i do fresh honey from the hive with butter on my bagels and they're just buttery and sweet...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Odd fact: nobody in a beer commercial ever has a beer belly.
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Mark,

yo're looking at this too deeply or something... it appears that
there's a simple serial number being used... it is incremented each
time one is pulled... the problem is that with all your switching back and forth from package to package and reinstalling and such, the
counter starts over each time... ask steve where the counter is stored
so you can edit it to a higher value and the duplication of serial numbers will be thwarted... i don't know if it is VFIDO that is putting the MSGID into the messages or not... i would think NOT because it wouldn't be able to properly support the REPLY control lines but
anyway, just figure out how to change that number and then keep up with that file in case you decide to switch again or have to reinstall VADV again...

Steve is so busy with other things that I have no idea when I'll get
a reply.

I really don't want to try to go to another BBS and set up an account
to read echoes...I prefer them on my BBS, but some of the message
networks I have only offer FTN access, and NOT QWK Networking.

To make matters worse, the file transfer deal (VXYZ) apparently is
timing out on some transfers. Then, CEXYZ locked on me when I tried to
get this packet, and would not take a test file upload.

If this wasn't bad enough, my Mom's copy of Windows 7 32-bit that
we bought from Amazon apparently has an invalid key. When we tried
to get support, or contact them...never mind trying to get a new
copy...we were bombarded with "upgrade to Windows 10". I said "SCREW
THAT!!". So, we went on Amazon, and ordered a new copy, which was $50
more than what we paid when we ordered it earlier this month. I guess
M$ is trying to get rid of all the copies of anything before Windows
10, and FORCE everyone to go to it.

Then, after the DYN DDoS crash on Friday (thankfully, my Mom and
I were out on errands much of the day), and all this mess...I've
about had it with computers this week.

I really don't want to change software, and I'd rather drop all of
the message networks, and make it a local board only. No one else
reads the other areas anyway.

Daryl

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10-22-16 11:16 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Mark,

@MSGID: <580BE3C8.14937.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
21 Oct 16 21:55, you wrote to me:

-snip-

I UnJoined the TAGLINE echo just a few days after I Joined it.

Some Users in the echo weren't members of the CTC (Clean Tagline Club).

you can clean those you don't like from your lists... i like all kinds

I decided that I didn't want to see any more of the ones in a Tagline List
that offended me.

If I save a message and don't like the Tagline I edit it out of the file.


That's Me, You're You.




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22 Oct 16 20:31, you wrote to me:

Steve is so busy with other things that I have no idea when I'll get a reply.

have you gotten any other complaints or notices that your posts are not propogating because of duplicate MSGIDs?? ever? if not, then i'll just whizz off and leave it alone... the only reasons why i let you know is because you should be told as well as trying to help the software become better... i could easily have done like other operators and just not said anything at all... consider it dropped... i definitely don't want to see you leave because of some
stupid flaw in your software...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Did you know... That no-one ever reads these things?
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22 Oct 16 20:45, you wrote to me:

I UnJoined the TAGLINE echo just a few days after I Joined it.

Some Users in the echo weren't members of the CTC (Clean Tagline
Club).

you can clean those you don't like from your lists... i like all kinds

I decided that I didn't want to see any more of the ones in a Tagline
List that offended me.

no problem with that, ed... none at all...

If I save a message and don't like the Tagline I edit it out of the
file.

whereas i would go through the file and remove them first... searching for offensive words in a text editor is easy ;)

That's Me, You're You.

yes and i hope this hasn't driven a wedge between us...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
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In a message on Sunday 10-21-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

* MR/2 2.30 * There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'

Which One?
Amateur Radio, Computer Use or something else? .... ..

It just says 'hobby'.


CU AGN es GN de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Sunday 10-21-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

... As I said last week, I'll be done tomorrow.

The temperature in the oven is too low ;o)


CU L8ER,

Holger

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In a message on Monday 10-22-16 Daryl Stout said to mark lewis:

Hello Daryl,

I really don't want to change software, .........

You don't have to, as long as you stay with the 32 bit Win-10 op.sys.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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Ed,

Has Mike mentioned to You what Me and Him have been writing about concerning MultiMail and SLMR not displaying messages in the Personal area?

You are not alone.

I figured out the deal with QWK tossing on the REP packet creation.
MultiMail apparently does NOT have a "personal mail" folder like OLX does.

Lately this XP computer has been Winning by Freezing Up the Desktop
and not even letting the Time update in the Taskbar.

Google Chrome is repeatedly locking on Facebook, especially with the
videos. To make matters worse, the copies of Windows 7 I ordered off of
Amazon are now producing nasty messages from Microsoft that "your
activation key is invalid". When I try to re-enter the key, or go to
the automated system, I get the same response...cold hearted, no support,
screw you attitude from Microsoft. When I clicked on "buy a new key
online", I was taken to a deal to PURCHASE Windows 10...and I *INSTANTLY* closed that window. Again, Microsoft is FORCING users to upgrade, which I detest.

No, I'm not ready to BOOT IT!, You can forget about asking me that.

How about blow it up??!! :P

Hope Your BBS Troubles get ironed out, I know that You have enough Troubles as is.

You're not kidding. With doing numerous things in helping my 90 year
old Mom outside the BBS, I've had little time for BBS work...and I'm
amazed I have time for the ham radio nets.

Daryl, WX1DER

... 3 kinds of people: those who can count, & those who can't
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Mark,

have you gotten any other complaints or notices that your posts are not propogating because of duplicate MSGIDs?? ever? if not, then i'll just whizz off and leave it alone... the only reasons why i let you know is because you should be told as well as trying to help the software
become better... i could easily have done like other operators and just not said anything at all... consider it dropped... i definitely don't want to see you leave because of some stupid flaw in your software...

No one else has brought up...and Steve has not replied either. I had
problems with VFIDO with netmail routing quite awhile back.

I've started converting things to QWK Networking, but if that still causes issues, then I may go to a hybrid system...local messages only on the VADV32 website, then run GT Power under telnet.

Yet, I'm the only one reading the message areas. Most callers logon to
play the doors, while I do have some (mainly Guests on the website) leeching files, as it were.

Daryl

... 9 in 10 doctors believe that Epoxy can be cured.
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Holger,

I really don't want to change software, .........

You don't have to, as long as you stay with the 32 bit Win-10 op.sys.

The thing is cost. I'm on a fixed income, and can't be bothered with discarding a whole slew of perfectly good working hardware and software,
just to satisfy Microsoft's bottom line of GREED.

Daryl

... A little a'disk & a little a'data
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10-23-16 21:44 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <580DE513.14958.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Sunday 10-21-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

... As I said last week, I'll be done tomorrow.

The temperature in the oven is too low ;o)

Would that help me get some ROUNDTUITS done?

* MR/2 2.30 * They're coming to take me away, ha ha, hee ! They're ...
Uh Oh!

To that Happy place with Trees and Flowers and Beautiful Birds.....

So That tune made it all the way to the Aland Islands.

I have it on a 45 R.P.M. Record somewhere around here.
The Flip Side is the same thing except the tape was played backwards when
the Record was cut.

Can You see the Aurora coloring the Night Sky from Your QTH?

73 . . de Ed W9ODR K


... !!evirD-draH ym pu kcab nac I woN !!esrever dnuof I
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Hi! Ed,
On 10/27/2016 04:39 AM, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

* MR/2 2.30 * They're coming to take me away, ha ha, hee !
They're ... Uh Oh!

To that Happy place with Trees and Flowers and Beautiful Birds.....

So That tune made it all the way to the Aland Islands.

I have it on a 45 R.P.M. Record somewhere around here.
The Flip Side is the same thing except the tape was played backwards when the Record was cut.

It made it here too, at t'other end of the world. I have a MP3 of it in my collection.

Can You see the Aurora coloring the Night Sky from Your QTH?

We get 'em here too. Doing mach 10 at 80,000 feet. Roger tried to convince me
otherwise once but I think he's a party to the 'deniable plausibility'(sic)(X-files) fog/cloud/crowd, being no doubt a member of some sort of Louisiana Wizards Conclave working for the feds.[giggle] :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Ed,

... As I said last week, I'll be done tomorrow.

The temperature in the oven is too low ;o)

Would that help me get some ROUNDTUITS done?

I don't know, but if the ham (animal), takes that long to get done,
I know that the temperature in the oven is too low.

Can You see the Aurora coloring the Night Sky from Your QTH?

Yes, if I get out of the light from street lights and from windows in
the houses. There's been a lot of auroras lately.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Daryl Stout said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Daryl,

I really don't want to change software, .........

You don't have to, as long as you stay with the 32 bit Win-10 op.sys.

The thing is cost. I'm on a fixed income, and can't be bothered
with discarding a whole slew of perfectly good working hardware and software, just to satisfy Microsoft's bottom line of GREED.

If you have jumped on the 64-bit wagon, too early, you'll have to blame yourself if the downgrade to 32-bit costs you..


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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10-26-16 19:50 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new!

@MSGID: <5811D996.14968.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Ed,

Has Mike mentioned to You what Me and Him have been writing about concerning MultiMail and SLMR not displaying messages in the Personal area?

You are not alone.

I figured out the deal with QWK tossing on the REP packet creation. MultiMail apparently does NOT have a "personal mail" folder like OLX
does.

Its Wonderful that You figured it out.
MultiMail show a PERS area (echo) in the echo list, but whatever is in
the .QWK packet I guess OLX/(SLMR) and MM do things different with it.

Lately this XP computer has been Winning by Freezing Up the Desktop
and not even letting the Time update in the Taskbar.

Google Chrome is repeatedly locking on Facebook, especially with the videos. To make matters worse, the copies of Windows 7 I ordered off of Amazon are now producing nasty messages from Microsoft that "your activation key is invalid". When I try to re-enter the key, or go to
the automated system, I get the same response...cold hearted, no

It's all about $$$$$$$$'s, complain to the Amazon Store the software came
from AND to Amazon.

73 de Ed W9ODR DIT DIT


... Windows:Ultimate memory manager.It manages to use it all.
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10-28-16 09:24 Paul Quinn wrote to Ed Vance about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Paul,

@MSGID: <58132B09.14980.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Hi! Ed,
On 10/27/2016 04:39 AM, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

* MR/2 2.30 * They're coming to take me away, ha ha, hee !
They're ... Uh Oh!

To that Happy place with Trees and Flowers and Beautiful Birds.....

So That tune made it all the way to the Aland Islands.

I have it on a 45 R.P.M. Record somewhere around here.
The Flip Side is the same thing except the tape was played backwards when the Record was cut.

It made it here too, at t'other end of the world. I have a MP3 of it
in my collection.

Hmmm, somebody thought to put that old recording in a .MP3 file, Hmmm.

Can You see the Aurora coloring the Night Sky from Your QTH?

We get 'em here too. Doing mach 10 at 80,000 feet. Roger tried to convince me otherwise once but I think he's a party to the 'deniable plausibility'(sic)(X-files) fog/cloud/crowd, being no doubt a member of some sort of Louisiana Wizards Conclave working for the feds.[giggle]
:)

Roger knows a lot. (buttering up Roger)

It is rare when an Aurora can be seen where I live on 38N Degree Lat.

Spaceweather's web site iirc has photos of Auroras.

They are real pretty.
Do You see them in the Summer when it's warmer to be outside to view them?


... This tagline is bi-lingual. English and Australian.
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10-28-16 09:49 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail and new! Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58147C8C.14988.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Ed,

... As I said last week, I'll be done tomorrow.

The temperature in the oven is too low ;o)

Would that help me get some ROUNDTUITS done?

I don't know, but if the ham (animal), takes that long to get done,
I know that the temperature in the oven is too low.

Yep, Ham has to be cooked very Well Done to kill the Tricky thingamajigs
in Pig meat.

Can You see the Aurora coloring the Night Sky from Your QTH?

Yes, if I get out of the light from street lights and from windows in
the houses. There's been a lot of auroras lately.

Thanks!.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... My new Pentium is so fast it can bake a potato in eight minutes!
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Hi! Ed,

On 29 Oct 16 22:45, you wrote to me:

To that Happy place with Trees and Flowers and Beautiful
Birds.....
So That tune made it all the way to the Aland Islands.

I have it on a 45 R.P.M. Record somewhere around here.
The Flip Side is the same thing except the tape was played
backwards when the Record was cut.

It made it here too, at t'other end of the world. I have a MP3
of it in my collection.

Hmmm, somebody thought to put that old recording in a .MP3 file, Hmmm.

Well, it _was_ a video on EwwToob. I couldn't just leave it there. ;)

Roger knows a lot. (buttering up Roger)

Sometimes it's just too hard to say "no" to him...

It is rare when an Aurora can be seen where I live on 38N Degree Lat. Spaceweather's web site iirc has photos of Auroras.
They are real pretty.

I have several snapshots taken from a location in Lapland, IIRC. There is one video sequence from the International Space Station that specifically targets auroras seen from 220 miles up, on EwwToob. Very nice indeed. I sometimes use
it as a sort of screensaver, playing it from a USB stick.

Do You see them in the Summer when it's warmer to be outside to view
them?

Nope. Not at all. We're closer to the equator here. Too close. Our mates in
New Zealand get to see them sometimes, as they're closer to Antartica.

Cheers,
Paul.

... *Real* programmers use COPY CON MYAPP.ZIP
--- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
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In a message on Sunday 10-28-16 Ed Vance said to Daryl Stout:

Hello Daryl,

MultiMail apparently does NOT have a "personal mail" folder like OLX
does.

Its Wonderful that You figured it out.
MultiMail show a PERS area (echo) in the echo list, but whatever is
in the .QWK packet I guess OLX/(SLMR) and MM do things different
with it.

Whenever I have used MM, it always has showed the contents in the PERS
folder. Just tested it again, and it still does.

Google Chrome is repeatedly locking on Facebook, especially with the videos.

You're not alone. It does the same here with either Opera (my default),
and Firefox.

I have tried all the tricks mentioned in the "Getting back to Facebook",
to no avail.

I have other things to do so I've ceased fighting FB.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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10-30-16 21:23 Paul Quinn wrote to Ed Vance about Old mail and new!
Howdy! Paul,

@MSGID: <58166FC3.15000.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Hi! Ed,

On 29 Oct 16 22:45, you wrote to me:

To that Happy place with Trees and Flowers and Beautiful
Birds.....
So That tune made it all the way to the Aland Islands.

I have it on a 45 R.P.M. Record somewhere around here.
The Flip Side is the same thing except the tape was played
backwards when the Record was cut.

It made it here too, at t'other end of the world. I have a MP3
of it in my collection.

Hmmm, somebody thought to put that old recording in a .MP3 file, Hmmm.

Well, it _was_ a video on EwwToob. I couldn't just leave it there. ;)

Was the flip side also on YouTube?

What do You use to grab Files from YouTube? Thanks!

I have Flashgot and Video Download Helper.
I use one of them, but can't remember which one.
-snip-

It is rare when an Aurora can be seen where I live on 38N Degree Lat. Spaceweather's web site iirc has photos of Auroras.
They are real pretty.

I have several snapshots taken from a location in Lapland, IIRC. There

I had to get a Map Atlas to learn Lapland is in the Northern parts of
Sweden, Finland and Norway.

That's North of where Holger lives.

is one video sequence from the International Space Station that specifically targets auroras seen from 220 miles up, on EwwToob. Very nice indeed. I sometimes use it as a sort of screensaver, playing it
from a USB stick.

I don't use a screensaver, but I will put this XP box to Sleep during the
day.

Do You see them in the Summer when it's warmer to be outside to view
them?

Nope. Not at all. We're closer to the equator here. Too close. Our mates in New Zealand get to see them sometimes, as they're closer to Antartica.

Thanks.

... Have you checked your smoke detector batteries & Fire Ext, LATELY?!
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Hi! Ed,

On 31 Oct 16 19:48, you wrote to me:

Well, it _was_ a video on EwwToob. I couldn't just leave it
there. ;)

Was the flip side also on YouTube?

Yes, tacked onto the A-side's music. It first plays normally then reversed. Since the B-side can be somewhat tedious, I've just extracted the A-side.

What do You use to grab Files from YouTube? Thanks!

I've added-on three choices:

* Easy YT Video Downloader Express (if that doesn't work, then...)
* 1-Click YT Video Downloader (and, if that doesn't work then...)
* Flash and Video Download (which can download some sites other than YT)
N.B. YT above == EwwToob

For conversion from MP4-->MP3, I use a thing called WinFF on my Liunx PC under the house. I've tried VLC but haven't had any luck with the Linux version. You
may have better luck, or you have a favourite converter already perhaps.

I have Flashgot and Video Download Helper.

I think I gave up on the Helper. I've tried many over the years until they just stopped working... one day.

... Have you checked your smoke detector batteries & Fire Ext,

I just had a new bunch of detectors installed on the weekend. Two more to replace next Thursday, under the house.

Cheers,
Paul.

... "Too much of a good thing is wonderful", Mae West.
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Holger Granholm wrote to Apometron <=-

In a message on Tuesday 10-16-16 Rodrigo Cesar Banhara said to Holger Granholm:

I am reading the msgs, here. =D

Good evening Rodrigo,

Hello Holger. Good night!! =DD

I would like to point you folks my text editor: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_pR-HZ0Fp03NzhiQkJadWhzb2s
I hope you folks like the text editor I love to use.

Nothing can beat the editor I'm using, The Semware editor that I have extended with translations from/to ASCII, PC8, Latin-1 and Mac!

But it is a paid solution, I prefer my freeware editor. =D

Have a good night,

Have a good night for you too,

Holger

Rodrigo Cesar

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Ahrah, an user of OS/2. I used it for several
years, before to switch to Windows, in 2003.

I used it from 1997 to 2002, by long six years.

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In a message on Friday 11-29-16 Rodrigo Cesar Banhara said to Holger
Granholm:

Hello Rodrigo,

I would like to point you folks my text editor: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_pR-HZ0Fp03NzhiQkJadWhzb2s

Nothing can beat the editor I'm using, The Semware editor that I
have extended with translations from/to ASCII, PC8, Latin-1 and Mac!

But it is a paid solution, I prefer my freeware editor. =D

Yes, to each his own. I pay for software that I use and like.

* MR/2 2.30 *

That goes also for the QWK reader!


Have a good evening,

Holger


.. Your majesty! The pedants are revolting!
-- MR/2 2.30

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