In a message on Wednesday 10-17-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

10-14-16 09:46 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail

GE Ed,

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments

Consequently, you both missed the boat, while an upgrade to 10 was
free!

I looked at Microsofts free WTEN offer as being like the Apple tied
to a string on a pole that was held over the donkeys head and just a
tiny BIT farther away than the donkey's tongue could touch it.

You read too much, and believe, that what you read is the only truth.

After noting that it is a viable upgrade, I didn't waste any time to
buy a stationary machine with Win7 and upgraded it to Win10 for free.

The problems I've had, are related to moving to new programs ......

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand
messages in the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four years,
but they were quickly cleared out. Now there are less than 10.

If You are speaking of MALWAREBYTES, they have a Free and a Paid
version. I use the Free and manually update the Definitions as I
want to, the Paid version does that automagically.

Yes I think that was the one, but I removed it when it told me that the
end of the free evaluation period had ended.

Recently I read that AVAST! owns AVG now.
Have You read about that too?

No, I have better things to do, than reading all sorts of gossip.


73 de Sam OH0NC es GN ..._._
_____________________ V A not SK, which means Silent Key.
aka Holger

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19 Oct 16 09:26, you wrote to Ed Vance:

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand messages
in the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four years,
but they were quickly cleared out. Now there are less than 10.

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next unread message" button at
the top of the screen to go through them... emails without filters remain in the inbox until i either create a filter and folder for them or i delete them... so what if there's a bunch in there and they've all been read... it is the unread ones that matter ;) ;) ;)

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10-19-16 09:26 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Free programs
Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <58089F14.14919.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Wednesday 10-17-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

10-14-16 09:46 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Old mail

GE Ed,

I gave up on Windows 8.1 after I got a pop-up from Hewlett-Packard

I run XP and Vista and gonna stay with them after reading comments

Consequently, you both missed the boat, while an upgrade to 10 was
free!

I looked at Microsofts free WTEN offer as being like the Apple tied
to a string on a pole that was held over the donkeys head and just a
tiny BIT farther away than the donkey's tongue could touch it.

You read too much, and believe, that what you read is the only truth.

I AM Selective about my reading but I occasionally read the views of others.

After noting that it is a viable upgrade, I didn't waste any time to
buy a stationary machine with Win7 and upgraded it to Win10 for free.

The problems I've had, are related to moving to new programs ......

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand
messages in the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four years,
but they were quickly cleared out. Now there are less than 10.

I was of the thought that using a Mail Reader with the Option to Delete Messages from the Email Server and keeping them in the In-Box was the
way it worked.
I used TB a few years before it BURPED on me.

Recently I read a TB Web Page that said to move messages from the In-Box to another area.
As much as I like to research things I messed up on Not Doing that with TB.

If You are speaking of MALWAREBYTES, they have a Free and a Paid
version. I use the Free and manually update the Definitions as I
want to, the Paid version does that automagically.

Yes I think that was the one, but I removed it when it told me that the end of the free evaluation period had ended.

Something like that happened to me also.

I learned that I must had accidently clicked the Link on MWB's screen to
start the Trial Period for their Premium version.

I think that Link is at the bottom right of the MWB window.

Recently I read that AVAST! owns AVG now.
Have You read about that too?

No, I have better things to do, than reading all sorts of gossip.

I believe I read that comment at AVAST!, but memory fails me if that is
where I read about AVG.

73 de Sam OH0NC es GN ..._._
_____________________ V A not SK, which means Silent Key.
aka Holger

I was reading a web page about the History of Ham Radio and noticed
that writer explained Silent Key meant both terms.

Either the Key had quit being used for a while.
Or that the Keys owner had passed away.

In my mind I believe the page I was reading was written by a Frenchman,
not by someone on my side of the great pond.



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10-20-16 10:56 mark lewis wrote to Holger Granholm about Free programs
Howdy! Mark,

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19 Oct 16 09:26, you wrote to Ed Vance:

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand messages
in the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four years,
but they were quickly cleared out. Now there are less than 10.

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next unread message" button at the top of the screen to go through them... emails without filters remain in the inbox until i either create a filter and folder for them or i delete them... so what if there's a bunch in there and they've all been read... it is the unread ones that matter ;) ;) ;)

Thanks for the idea.
I've never tried learning how to use filters in TB.
It is TB that You're speaking of, isn't it?

I am one who will re-read Emails (and BBS messages I've saved).

One big reason I like reading BBS messages is the people who know this
stuff and know how to explain it to unlearned guys like me, let me get an EDucation.

Thanks, and Thanks to all others here.



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In a message on Friday 10-20-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Good day 'lower case Mark' as I saw in another message ;o)

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four years,

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next
unread message" button at the top of the screen to go through them ..

My corespondence through by e-mail is so limited, that I haven't delved
deeper into the T-bird possibilities.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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21 Oct 16 23:33, you wrote to me:

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are
shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next unread
message" button at the top of the screen to go through them... emails
without filters remain in the inbox until i either create a filter
and folder for them or i delete them... so what if there's a bunch in
there and they've all been read... it is the unread ones that matter
;) ;) ;)

Thanks for the idea. I've never tried learning how to use filters in
TB. It is TB that You're speaking of, isn't it?

yes it is...

I am one who will re-read Emails (and BBS messages I've saved).

One big reason I like reading BBS messages is the people who know this stuff and know how to explain it to unlearned guys like me, let me get
an EDucation.

education? you didn't tell me that you were in this for the education... that'll be $50000US, please... we need a mailing address where can the bills be
sent ;)

Thanks, and Thanks to all others here.

you're welcome :)

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21 Oct 16 09:41, you wrote to me:

Good day 'lower case Mark' as I saw in another message ;o)

yeah, they do that trying to antagonize me...

I never leave any amount of messages in the InBox. The most I've had
there where over 1700, after my ISP account had been idle four
years,

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are
shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next unread
message" button at the top of the screen to go through them ..

My corespondence through by e-mail is so limited, that I haven't
delved deeper into the T-bird possibilities.

i can understand that... my t-bird checks roughly a dozen email addresses whenever i push the [Get Mail] button... i know of at least 10 mailing lists that i'm on with one or more email addresses... plus i have almost every email i've written or sent since some time back in about '95 or so... some days one account will pull two or three hundred posts...

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10-22-16 11:09 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Free programs
Howdy! Mark,

@MSGID: <580BE3C9.14941.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
21 Oct 16 23:33, you wrote to me:

-snip-

One big reason I like reading BBS messages is the people who know this stuff and know how to explain it to unlearned guys like me, let me get
an EDucation.

education? you didn't tell me that you were in this for the
education... that'll be $50000US, please... we need a mailing address where can the bills be sent ;)

I saw the ;) at the end of the line.

Doesn't "We" know that my mailing address can probably be found multiple
times just by doing a Search on a Search Engine for it?

And if a Search didn't work, go to qrz.com and enter W9ODR, my Amateur
Radio Call Sign.

Just thinking, entering W9ODR in a Search Engine may give "We" the info
"They" need.

If or when I get the bill, since this is the Season when most of the Junk
Mail that comes in my Postal Mail Box is about-Which Medicare Supplement Company would I really want to give my money to- which all goes in the
Paper Shredder.

The bill from "We" will also be in that stack.

Tell "We" to save that postage stamp to send a bill to some one else.

Junk Mail or Junque Mail all goes in the same Black Box here along with advertisements from the local Cable TV/Internet Company and other such
mail from people who want to waste their time and money by thinking that I would want to send them any of my dough.

I suppose they hadn't heard how cheap Ed is, yet.


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In a message on Sunday 10-21-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Ed,

You read too much, and believe, that what you read is the only truth.

I AM Selective about my reading but I occasionally read the views of others.

You say 'occasionally', but I think you read'em all.

I had one big problem with Thunderbird when several thousand
messages in the In-Box got cleared out after I compacted TB.

I have an unresolved problem with FaceBook. It has ceased to show the
new pictures sent to me. I don't yet know the cause.

Recently I read a TB Web Page that said to move messages from the
In-Box to another area.

You have several options in TB, but I prefer to copy/move messages that
I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are
saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

If you care about the space that the saved text messages occupy on your
HD, save them as *.txt files. That way you get rid of the MetaData that
is included in all Windows files, and you'll still have all the text.

I learned that I must had accidently clicked the Link on MWB's
screen to start the Trial Period for their Premium version.

I think that Link is at the bottom right of the MWB window.

I'll check that sometime, but right now AVG and ZA are doing what they
are designed to, I think!!

But I still would like to get an anti advertising program.
As I wrote before, the AdAware program has now become a full-fledged
anti-virus program.

73 de Sam OH0NC es GN ..._._
_____________________ V A not SK, which means Silent Key.

I was reading a web page about the History of Ham Radio and noticed
that writer explained Silent Key meant both terms.

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Yes they do, but I prefer VA as a sign off of a QSO.


Have a good night,

Holger

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In a message on Sunday 10-22-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Good day Mark,

Good day 'lower case Mark' as I saw in another message ;o)

yeah, they do that trying to antagonize me...

No, I don't think that's true, because there are many Mark's around, but
only one, to my knowledge, that spells his name with lower case 'm'.

i use the filters prodigiously... when the emails come in, they are
shuffled off to their own folders... then i just use the "next unread
message" button at the top of the screen to go through them ..

I save all text messages as *.txt, to avoid the MetaData that Windows
puts in every file. Of course pictures, if there are any, disappear.

That way I can save the text messages even to 3.5" diskettes.

My corespondence through by e-mail is so limited, that I haven't
delved deeper into the T-bird possibilities.

i can understand that... my t-bird checks roughly a dozen email
addresses whenever i push the [Get Mail] button... i know of at
least 10 mailing lists that i'm on with one or more email
addresses...

I will, time permitting, examine the TB possibilities.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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23 Oct 16 11:11, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Recently I read a TB Web Page that said to move messages from the
In-Box to another area.

You have several options in TB, but I prefer to copy/move messages that
I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

/only/ if you use that stupid IMAP protocol thing... if you use POP3, they are pulled off the server onto your machine and you can do what you like with them... then if you lose them, it is your fault...

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In a message on Tuesday 10-24-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Good morning Mark,

I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

/only/ if you use that stupid IMAP protocol thing... if you use
POP3, they are pulled off the server onto your machine and you can
do what you like with them... then if you lose them, it is your
fault...

Thanks for the advice.
I'll check my TB setup, when I open it up later today.


Have a good day,

Holger

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10-23-16 11:11 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Free programs
Howdy! Holger,

@MSGID: <580DE512.14955.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
In a message on Sunday 10-21-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

-snip-

Recently I read a TB Web Page that said to move messages from the
In-Box to another area.

You have several options in TB, but I prefer to copy/move messages that
I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

If you care about the space that the saved text messages occupy on your HD, save them as *.txt files. That way you get rid of the MetaData that
is included in all Windows files, and you'll still have all the text.

I used a MS Office version on the 486 Win3.1 pc and I looked at a file I
had written using Word using either the MS-DOS 5.0 DOSSHELL or LIST.COM
or maybe something else, and was suprised to see that several version of
what I had written were kept in the file above the final edit that I made
to it.

A few years back iirc I learned someone Emailed a .doc file and the
Receipient looked into it and read some of the things in the file that
had been edited out of the .doc file they received and learned something
they wasn't suppose to know about.
I 'think' the Sender of the Email got in BIG trouble over the incident.

I learned that I must had accidently clicked the Link on MWB's
screen to start the Trial Period for their Premium version.

I think that Link is at the bottom right of the MWB window.

I looked, it is on the Right Side but a bit up from the bottom of the window.

I'll check that sometime, but right now AVG and ZA are doing what they
are designed to, I think!!

GOOD!

But I still would like to get an anti advertising program.
As I wrote before, the AdAware program has now become a full-fledged anti-virus program.

Maybe AdAware still offers downloads to their older versions.
I have it on Firefox but don't refer to it, I'm always clicking on the
NoScript icon next to it when I go to a unfamiliar website, but I haven't
seen any Advertisements, so I guess it's doing its job.

73 de Sam OH0NC es GN ..._._
_____________________ V A not SK, which means Silent Key.

I was reading a web page about the History of Ham Radio and noticed
that writer explained Silent Key meant both terms.

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Yes they do, but I prefer VA as a sign off of a QSO.

DIT DIT works too. . .

73 de Ed W9ODR . ... . ..


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10-24-16 06:03 mark lewis wrote to Holger Granholm about Free programs
Howdy! Mark,

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@REPLY: <580DE512.14955.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
23 Oct 16 11:11, you wrote to Ed Vance:

Recently I read a TB Web Page that said to move messages from the
In-Box to another area.

You have several options in TB, but I prefer to copy/move messages that
I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

/only/ if you use that stupid IMAP protocol thing... if you use POP3,
they are pulled off the server onto your machine and you can do what
you like with them... then if you lose them, it is your fault...

POP3 is what Yahoo recommended {iirc} so I thought I was being nice to
Yahoo by setting TB to tell the Server to take the Email(s) I grabbed Off of
it so they would have more HDD space free for others to use.

Last week I learned that I no longer have Email accounts with JUNO or Net
Zero when I sent a TEST message that I included those two accounts in.

Those two messages were Bounced Back to me.

When I went to either of the webmail pages for Juno or Net Zero I can't see
any where to either try to Log On to my old account(s), or create a new
free Email Account.

All I see is GOOBLED News on their page(s).

Would You know about any changes to United Online to cause their Free Email Accounts to get dropped?

Thanks.


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26 Oct 16 14:52, you wrote to me:

Would You know about any changes to United Online to cause their Free Email Accounts to get dropped?

sorry, i do not... i know they combined into one entity and changed their terms
so that their software used your CPU's idle time which they then sold as a massive computer... distributed processing type stuff like distributed.net and BIONC but this was required if you wanted to use their services... it is/was one way for them to make money for you using their free services... aside from that, i wasn't able to find out anything to the questions

what happened to my juno email account?
what happened to my netzero email account?

there's a wikipedia page on them but it doesn't say very much... i suspect that
if the account wasn't accessed for some period of time or the new terms of service we not agreed to at some point, they just dropped them as inactive accounts... their customer support would be better able to help if you are serious about finding out what happened... TBH, personally speaking, i wouldn't
worry about them...

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In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GA Ed,

You have several options in TB, but I prefer to copy/move messages that
I want to save, out of TB, because I think that 'Archive'd messages are saved on the ISP, and available only as long as you are connected.

This 'think' of me, was confirmed by Mark, when he told that using the
IMAP protocol for getting messages, keeps them on the server.

Using the POP protocol, brings the messages to your own hard disk.

I checked my setup in TB and found that it was set to IMAP, and I found
no way to change that to POP.

Oh well, I download everything I want to save anyway, and delete the
original as soon as I have replied to it or copied it.

I used a MS Office version on the 486 Win3.1 pc and I looked at a
file I had written using Word using either the MS-DOS 5.0 DOSSHELL

I have never used MS Office, but I know that the meta date is there, and
it disappears when I save the message as *.txt.

But I still would like to get an anti advertising program.

Maybe AdAware still offers downloads to their older versions.

I didn't see anything like that on their page.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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10-27-16 19:39 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Free programs
Howdy! Mark,

@MSGID: <58132B0A.14981.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
26 Oct 16 14:52, you wrote to me:

Would You know about any changes to United Online to cause their Free Email Accounts to get dropped?

sorry, i do not... i know they combined into one entity and changed
their terms so that their software used your CPU's idle time which they then sold as a massive computer... distributed processing type stuff
like distributed.net and BIONC but this was required if you wanted to
use their services... it is/was one way for them to make money for you using their free services... aside from that, i wasn't able to find out anything to the questions

When I was using their web site to check for any Emails I saw their Advertisement asking for Help with that project but I never participated.

This pc isn't on 24/7 where it could be used by them when I wasn't doing anything with the pc.

what happened to my juno email account?
what happened to my netzero email account?

there's a wikipedia page on them but it doesn't say very much... i

I looked at that page a few weeks ago but didn't see anything about changes
to their 'service'.

suspect that if the account wasn't accessed for some period of time or
the new terms of service we not agreed to at some point, they just
dropped them as inactive accounts... their customer support would be better able to help if you are serious about finding out what
happened... TBH, personally speaking, i wouldn't worry about them...

Yes, I only checked it occasionally to see if anyone sent something to me.

Thanks!.


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