• Re: Locator maps

    From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Wed Oct 19 09:26:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 10-17-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Ed,

    Oh, O.K., I was thinking Mdh and HamGrid were the same.
    I sit corrected (again). Thanks.

    Maybe they are, but I don't know the MdH locator by that name.

    Look up Your Call Sign on QRZ to see the Ham Grid map.
    It isn't the map on the top right side, HamGrid is the second map
    below that first one.

    I'll do that, just out of curiosity, since the info I've given QRZ is
    many years old.

    * MR/2 2.30 * If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    I identify with that phrase.

    So, you have learned to pick the tag lines, even from MR/2.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Fri Oct 21 23:07:00 2016
    10-19-16 09:26 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Locator maps
    Howdy! Holger,

    @MSGID: <58089F14.14920.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Wednesday 10-17-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Ed,

    Oh, O.K., I was thinking Mdh and HamGrid were the same.
    I sit corrected (again). Thanks.

    Maybe they are, but I don't know the MdH locator by that name.

    Look up Your Call Sign on QRZ to see the Ham Grid map.
    It isn't the map on the top right side, HamGrid is the second map
    below that first one.

    I'll do that, just out of curiosity, since the info I've given QRZ is
    many years old.

    I looked for OH0NC at QRZ and a window appeared asking if I wanted to
    Add that Call to their Database.

    So I looked at the info for my Call and just below the Map on the right side
    it has a Link to look up on HamGrids.

    * MR/2 2.30 * If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    I identify with that phrase.

    So, you have learned to pick the tag lines, even from MR/2.

    No Sir, that MR/2 line was in the Reply and I didn't Edit it out.

    I have to enter Taglines in Your messages by hand when I want to add one
    that I like.
    MultiMail won't grab them for me when I press the T Key.

    I haven't tried seeing if SLMR will put them in to the TAGLINE.MR file
    for me.

    Hmmmmm, another ROUNDTUIT.

    I just tried using SLMR on this same message and the Tagline Editor Line
    was BLANK, just as MultiMails Tagline Editor.

    73 de Ed W9ODR K


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ed Vance on Sat Oct 22 10:52:56 2016

    21 Oct 16 23:07, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    I'll do that, just out of curiosity, since the info I've given QRZ is
    many years old.

    I looked for OH0NC at QRZ and a window appeared asking if I wanted to
    Add that Call to their Database.

    it may not be an O (oh) or a 0 (zero)... my conversion of some LS_ARRL posts has one character, an O (oh) with a forward slash through it that has no ASCII or HIGH ASCII equivalent... i have no clue how to make such a character, either...

    if i've found the right one, there's the 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE' (U+00D8) and the 'LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE' (U+00F8)... neither of which live in CP437 that we're used to using in DOS...

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00d8/index.htm

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00F8/index.htm


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ed Vance on Sat Oct 22 11:06:50 2016

    21 Oct 16 23:07, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    * MR/2 2.30 * If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    I identify with that phrase.

    So, you have learned to pick the tag lines, even from MR/2.

    No Sir, that MR/2 line was in the Reply and I didn't Edit it out.

    I have to enter Taglines in Your messages by hand when I want to add
    one that I like. MultiMail won't grab them for me when I press the T
    Key.

    because MR/2 and some other offline readers don't use the proper tagline starting sequence of three dots (which some call an elipsis when it isn't)...


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to mark lewis on Sat Oct 22 21:02:00 2016
    10-22-16 10:52 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Locator maps
    Howdy! Again Mark,

    @MSGID: <580BE3C8.14939.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    21 Oct 16 23:07, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    I'll do that, just out of curiosity, since the info I've given QRZ is
    many years old.

    I looked for OH0NC at QRZ and a window appeared asking if I wanted to
    Add that Call to their Database.

    it may not be an O (oh) or a 0 (zero)... my conversion of some LS_ARRL posts has one character, an O (oh) with a forward slash through it that has no ASCII or HIGH ASCII equivalent... i have no clue how to make
    such a character, either...

    I have seen some fonts that have a dot inside the Zero Number.

    if i've found the right one, there's the 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE' (U+00D8) and the 'LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE' (U+00F8)... neither of which live in CP437 that we're used to using in DOS...

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00d8/index.htm

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00F8/index.htm

    I will have to look the next time I visit qrz.com to see what the Number
    Zero looks like, iirc it is a plain old Zero, not dot nor slash.

    I believe when I Search for someone or log on to the site, they are using CP437.
    But I'm in the U.S.A., a person outside the U.S.A. may see their web site displaying the Code Page for their locale.

    After I mailed the Novice Test to the F.C.C., I knew that they were
    giving out new Call Sign in the 4th District beginning with the letter Z
    after the 4, I was really wanting KN4ZON for my Call Sign but got KN4ZIQ instead.

    ZON to me meant Zero Ought Nothing.

    After a few months I thought up Zero Intelligence Quotient for my new Call.

    Suits Me.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to mark lewis on Sat Oct 22 21:23:00 2016
    10-22-16 11:06 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Locator maps
    Howdy! Mark,

    @MSGID: <580BE3C9.14940.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    21 Oct 16 23:07, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    * MR/2 2.30 * If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    I identify with that phrase.

    So, you have learned to pick the tag lines, even from MR/2.

    No Sir, that MR/2 line was in the Reply and I didn't Edit it out.

    I have to enter Taglines in Your messages by hand when I want to add
    one that I like. MultiMail won't grab them for me when I press the T
    Key.

    because MR/2 and some other offline readers don't use the proper
    tagline starting sequence of three dots (which some call an elipsis
    when it isn't)...

    I remember some time ago someone told me about that.
    It may had been You.?

    I think it was about me having the wrong Tagline setting in SLMR.
    So I switched it to the other setting.
    I don't recall if MM offers that option or not, because I haven't looked
    at MM's configuration settings for a long time.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ed Vance on Sun Oct 23 08:30:28 2016

    22 Oct 16 21:02, you wrote to me:

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00d8/index.htm

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00F8/index.htm

    I will have to look the next time I visit qrz.com to see what the Number Zero looks like, iirc it is a plain old Zero, not dot nor slash.

    ok... just note that the ones i linked above are not dotted or slashed zeros...
    they are a completely different letter of that alphabet... one that does not exist in english...

    I believe when I Search for someone or log on to the site, they are
    using CP437. But I'm in the U.S.A., a person outside the U.S.A. may
    see their web site displaying the Code Page for their locale.

    when i tried searching QRZ using the slashed O (oh not zero), their site was dumping on me and causing firefox to abort with a notice that the site was using an unknown compression method... when i looked for just a plain O (oh), their site worked but found nothing... then it wouldn't let me search for holger's name unless i was logged in... oh well, there's other sites available ;)

    FWIW: i just also searched the ARRL site and they could not find that callsign at all... then i went by the HAMCall World-Wide site and they had no trouble finding it at all...

    http://hamcall.net/call?callsign=OH%D8NC

    it is the O (oh) with a slash through it but the sad/wrong part is that when they display it beside holger's name, they use a zero instead of what it actually is... yeah, i zoomed in on it to see specifically what they are using...

    FWIW2: the last time someone searched this callsign on HAMCall was 21 Mar 2016 and that was the 37th search for that callsign...

    it should also be noted that code pages are no longer used... character sets are used today and most web sites are using ISO-8859-1 or similar or they are using UTF-8... the whole mishmash has changed under us...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ed Vance on Sun Oct 23 09:02:14 2016

    22 Oct 16 21:23, you wrote to me:

    I have to enter Taglines in Your messages by hand when I want to add
    one that I like. MultiMail won't grab them for me when I press the T
    Key.

    because MR/2 and some other offline readers don't use the proper
    tagline starting sequence of three dots (which some call an elipsis
    when it isn't)...

    I remember some time ago someone told me about that. It may had been
    You.?

    yes, probably...

    I think it was about me having the wrong Tagline setting in SLMR.
    So I switched it to the other setting.

    yeah, i think you had SLMR set to put some sort of square block instead of the three dots... it has been a while, though...

    I don't recall if MM offers that option or not, because I haven't
    looked at MM's configuration settings for a long time.

    so far as i know, multimail only supports the current standard of three leading
    dots...

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Sun Oct 23 21:44:00 2016
    In a message on Sunday 10-22-16 mark lewis said to Ed Vance:

    Hi Mark,

    I looked for OH0NC at QRZ and a window appeared asking if I wanted to
    Add that Call to their Database.

    it may not be an O (oh) or a 0 (zero)... my conversion of some
    LS_ARRL posts has one character, an O (oh) with a forward slash
    through it that has no ASCII or HIGH ASCII equivalent... i have no
    clue how to make such a character, either...

    That character is used, to my knowledge only in danish, exists in cp850
    as char dec 157. The closest you get in cp437 is dec 237 (í), which
    isn't what you are looking for.

    In my conversion table from Latin-1 to PC8, I replace it with 0 (zero), although in danish text it replaces the letters ™ and ” as used in other european countries.

    There's another danish speciality, the letter combination ’ and ‘, that
    the conversion program I've made, converts to Ž and „, that are the replacements in other european languages.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Holger Granholm on Mon Oct 24 08:30:50 2016

    23 Oct 16 21:44, you wrote to me:

    I looked for OH0NC at QRZ and a window appeared asking if I wanted to
    Add that Call to their Database.

    it may not be an O (oh) or a 0 (zero)... my conversion of some
    LS_ARRL posts has one character, an O (oh) with a forward slash
    through it that has no ASCII or HIGH ASCII equivalent... i have no
    clue how to make such a character, either...

    actually, i do on this system which uses the "compose" method... so i hold a special key and hit the '/' and then the 'o' or 'O' depending on if i want a lower or upper case one...

    lower case oh with slash: ?
    upper case oh with slash: ?

    that doesn't look like it worked in this editor like it does for other characters :?

    That character is used, to my knowledge only in danish, exists in
    cp850 as char dec 157.

    hunh! i should have looked closer, then...

    The closest you get in cp437 is dec 237 (í), which isn't what you are looking for.

    yeah, i know...

    In my conversion table from Latin-1 to PC8, I replace it with 0
    (zero),

    so, does your callsign really have a zero or the oh with the slash? i found you, as noted in another post, on the HAMCall world wide call sign site by using the oh with a slash...

    although in danish text it replaces the letters ™ and ” as used in
    other european countries.

    There's another danish speciality, the letter combination ’ and ‘,
    that the conversion program I've made, converts to Ž and „, that are
    the replacements in other european languages.

    i have no idea what character glyphs those are... all i see here is a tilde (~)
    followed by an upper case Y, T, R, Q, N and D (in the order you typed them above)... in this install, i'm forcing CP437 and UTF-8 characters are seen as at least two characters and as many as four...

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to mark lewis on Wed Oct 26 10:17:00 2016
    10-23-16 08:30 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about Locator maps
    Howdy! Mark,

    @MSGID: <580D353D.14951.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    22 Oct 16 21:02, you wrote to me:

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00d8/index.htm

    http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00F8/index.htm

    I will have to look the next time I visit qrz.com to see what the Number Zero looks like, iirc it is a plain old Zero, not dot nor slash.

    ok... just note that the ones i linked above are not dotted or slashed zeros... they are a completely different letter of that alphabet... one that does not exist in english...

    I used a calculator to convert the Hex numbers to Decimal and looked at
    what ALT 216 and ALT 248 in a COMMAND Prompt looked like.

    ALT 248 looked to me like a Degree Sign, I have no idea what the other
    Symbol meant.

    BTW I hadn't looked at the QRZ.COM page, but I see below that You have.

    I believe when I Search for someone or log on to the site, they are
    using CP437. But I'm in the U.S.A., a person outside the U.S.A. may
    see their web site displaying the Code Page for their locale.

    when i tried searching QRZ using the slashed O (oh not zero), their
    site was dumping on me and causing firefox to abort with a notice that
    the site was using an unknown compression method... when i looked for
    just a plain O (oh), their site worked but found nothing... then it wouldn't let me search for holger's name unless i was logged in... oh well, there's other sites available ;)

    FWIW: i just also searched the ARRL site and they could not find that callsign at all... then i went by the HAMCall World-Wide site and they
    had no trouble finding it at all...

    http://hamcall.net/call?callsign=OH%D8NC

    I never used that website B4, Thanks!

    it is the O (oh) with a slash through it but the sad/wrong part is that when they display it beside holger's name, they use a zero instead of
    what it actually is... yeah, i zoomed in on it to see specifically what they are using...

    I will use the Print Scr Key a lot of times and Paste it in IraFanview so
    I can enlarge it to see what a tiny character looks like.

    FWIW2: the last time someone searched this callsign on HAMCall was 21
    Mar 2016 and that was the 37th search for that callsign...

    it should also be noted that code pages are no longer used... character sets are used today and most web sites are using ISO-8859-1 or similar
    or they are using UTF-8... the whole mishmash has changed under us...

    Thanks for EDucating ED about CP vs ISO/UTF-8.

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    73 . .


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Tue Oct 25 09:46:00 2016
    In a message on Tuesday 10-23-16 mark lewis said to Ed Vance:

    Good morning Mark,

    I will have to look the next time I visit qrz.com to see what the
    Number Zero looks like, iirc it is a plain old Zero, not dot nor
    slash.

    ok... just note that the ones i linked above are not dotted or
    slashed zeros... they are a completely different letter of that
    alphabet... one that does not exist in english...

    Not in any other language I know, except in danish. In danish it
    replaces the letter 'O' (oh) with two dots above. The 'O' with two dots
    is used in other scandinavian languages, and in german.

    AFAIK, the slashed O is available in cp850, but I don't use that.

    when i looked for just a plain O (oh), their site worked but found nothing... then it wouldn't let me search for holger's name unless i
    was logged in... oh well, there's other sites available ;)

    To see what info QRZ displayed about my call sign, I too had to login.
    That was the same as registering, so I received a password by e-mail.

    Maybe there is no info to my call, in that case I'll have to update it,
    or correct the info if it's wrong.

    that callsign at all... then i went by the HAMCall World-Wide site
    and they had no trouble finding it at all...

    http://hamcall.net/call?callsign=OH%D8NC

    it is the O (oh) with a slash through it but the sad/wrong part is
    that when they display it beside holger's name, they use a zero
    instead of what it actually is... yeah, i zoomed in on it to see specifically what they are using...

    That's also what I have programmed into my editors Latin-1 to PC8
    conversion table. Among others, the swedes do use the slashed O for zero
    in their bulletins, and I'm myself am a culprit of doing the same.

    Actually, most hams use it to discern zero from the letter O.

    While doing my military duty in the signal corps, we were told to
    underscore the O, to identify it as a zero. Much better in my mind.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Wed Oct 26 09:53:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 10-24-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Good morning Mark,

    it may not be an O (oh) or a 0 (zero)... my conversion of some
    LS_ARRL posts has one character, an O (oh) with a forward slash

    I really haven't noticed that, but it will go unnoticed by me, since the Latin-1 to PC8 conversion, takes care of that as 0 (zero).

    actually, i do on this system which uses the "compose" method... so
    i hold a special key and hit the '/' and then the 'o' or 'O'
    depending on if i want a lower or upper case one...

    lower case oh with slash: ?
    upper case oh with slash: ?

    Lower case with slash is simply the danish ” (o with 2 dots on top),
    nothing else.

    Upper case with slash is in reality the danish ™ (O with dots on top),
    but is wrongly used in other countries as a 0 (zero).

    so, does your callsign really have a zero or the oh with the slash?
    i found you, as noted in another post, on the HAMCall world wide
    call sign site by using the oh with a slash...

    My call sign has a 0 (zero) as middle character, but I have myself fallen
    into the trap of using the danish ™, as zero. The use of it is a world
    wide phenomen in ham radio.

    In the Finnish army's signal corps we were taught to use underscore
    below the O (oh), to make it a zero, when copying by hand.

    There's another danish speciality, the letter combination ’ and ‘,
    that the conversion program I've made, converts to Ž and „, .....

    i have no idea what character glyphs those are... all i see here is
    a tilde (~) followed by an upper case Y, T, R, Q, N and D (in the
    order you typed them above)... in this install, i'm forcing CP437
    and UTF-8 characters are seen as at least two characters and as many
    as four...

    They are character codes dec146 and dec145 in the cp437.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Fri Oct 28 11:48:00 2016
    In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

    Hi Ed,

    ok... just note that the ones i linked above are not dotted or slashed zeros... they are a completely different letter of that alphabet... one that does not exist in english...

    looked at what ALT 216 and ALT 248 in a COMMAND Prompt looked like.

    ALT 248 looked to me like a Degree Sign, I have no idea what the
    other Symbol meant.

    The ALT 216 is a graphic symbol in CP437, in Latin-1 it represents the
    slashed O, representing the danish LETTER O (oh) with two dots on top.

    I believe when I Search for someone or log on to the site, they are
    using CP437. But I'm in the U.S.A., a person outside the U.S.A. may
    see their web site displaying the Code Page for their locale.

    When you use Windows, use the number zero, because the QRZ database is apparently built on Latin-1 or something similar.

    BTW, I haven't yet updated any info on OH0NC in QRZ.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Fri Oct 28 22:17:00 2016
    10-25-16 09:46 Holger Granholm wrote to Mark Lewis about Re: Locator maps Howdy! Holger,

    @MSGID: <5811D984.14967.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    -snip-
    To see what info QRZ displayed about my call sign, I too had to login. That was the same as registering, so I received a password by e-mail.

    Maybe there is no info to my call, in that case I'll have to update it,
    or correct the info if it's wrong.

    Makes me glad I didn't attempt to enter Information for Your Call Sign
    in qrz.com when it asked me if I wanted to do so.

    You'll do it right!

    that callsign at all... then i went by the HAMCall World-Wide site
    and they had no trouble finding it at all...

    http://hamcall.net/call?callsign=OH%D8NC

    it is the O (oh) with a slash through it but the sad/wrong part is
    that when they display it beside holger's name, they use a zero
    instead of what it actually is... yeah, i zoomed in on it to see specifically what they are using...

    That's also what I have programmed into my editors Latin-1 to PC8 conversion table. Among others, the swedes do use the slashed O for
    zero in their bulletins, and I'm myself am a culprit of doing the same.

    Actually, most hams use it to discern zero from the letter O.

    While doing my military duty in the signal corps, we were told to underscore the O, to identify it as a zero. Much better in my mind.

    I either read about putting a slash in the number zero when I was a Novice
    or someone told me about doing that when I heard it sent in CW.
    I hadn't heard of underscoring the number 0 , but that works too!

    When I hear the number One I make a small horizontal line under the Vertical line to distinguish it from the letter I .

    I got my Novice license a year before I enlisted in the Navy.

    Aboard Ship the Radiomen used a Typewriter instead of copying CW by hand.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Sat Oct 29 23:16:00 2016
    10-28-16 11:48 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Zeros was Re: Locator
    ap
    Howdy! Again Holger,

    @MSGID: <58147C8D.14991.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Friday 10-26-16 Ed Vance said to mark lewis:

    Hi Ed,
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    I believe when I Search for someone or log on to the site, they are
    using CP437. But I'm in the U.S.A., a person outside the U.S.A. may
    see their web site displaying the Code Page for their locale.

    When you use Windows, use the number zero, because the QRZ database is apparently built on Latin-1 or something similar.

    They probably do that so people all over the Earth can use the web site.

    BTW, I haven't yet updated any info on OH0NC in QRZ.

    If I knew how to squeeze one of my ROUNDTUITS through the Router and
    DSL Modem I'd send You One of Mine. .... ..

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Sun Oct 30 10:26:00 2016
    In a message on Sunday 10-28-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    Maybe there is no info to my call, in that case I'll have to update it,

    Makes me glad I didn't attempt to enter Information for Your Call
    Sign in qrz.com when it asked me if I wanted to do so.

    I wonder if you could have done it. I think a pwrd is needed and maybe
    other proof of right to make/change the info.

    While doing my military duty in the signal corps, we were told to underscore the O, to identify it as a zero. Much better in my mind.

    When I hear the number One I make a small horizontal line under the Vertical line to distinguish it from the letter I .

    I have no difficulty putting a dot over the i. It's more natural to me,
    than underscoring the vertical line to make it a number.


    GN de Sam, OH0NC,

    aka Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Mon Oct 31 20:08:00 2016
    10-30-16 10:26 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Locator maps
    Howdy! Holger,

    @MSGID: <58171F9B.15001.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Sunday 10-28-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    Maybe there is no info to my call, in that case I'll have to update it,

    Makes me glad I didn't attempt to enter Information for Your Call
    Sign in qrz.com when it asked me if I wanted to do so.

    I wonder if you could have done it. I think a pwrd is needed and maybe other proof of right to make/change the info.

    I was Logged In both times I looked for Your Call Sign.
    ---

    I hope my backing out of that screen that asked if I wanted to put it
    in their DB, didn't erase Your info.

    While doing my military duty in the signal corps, we were told to underscore the O, to identify it as a zero. Much better in my mind.

    When I hear the number One I make a small horizontal line under the Vertical line to distinguish it from the letter I .

    I have no difficulty putting a dot over the i. It's more natural to me, than underscoring the vertical line to make it a number.

    Another Letter I make a mark on is Z when I'm making notes to myself.
    My Wife says I ought to had been a Doctor because She (and probably no one else) can read my hand writing.

    Do You mark a Z Character like I do?

    Sometime back in the 1980's (?) I noticed that some Clerks in the
    Stores I frequent would put a small line in the middle of the number 7
    when they wrote on a Receipt.

    I suppose they learned to do that in School?, the first time I saw
    someone do that it made me want to ask if they had a Ham Radio License.

    GE es 73 de Ed W9ODR


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Wed Nov 2 10:42:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 10-31-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    Another Letter I make a mark on is Z when I'm making notes to
    myself.

    Do You mark a Z Character like I do?

    No I don't, but I think that in the schools in the fourties, we were
    taught to write the Z with a hyphen crossing the middle of the slash
    part of the letter.

    Sometime back in the 1980's (?) I noticed that some Clerks in the
    Stores I frequent would put a small line in the middle of the number
    7 when they wrote on a Receipt.

    That was also the way we were taught to write the 7. I ceased to do that
    in 1951, because I had learned that a number 7 written that way, was
    often interpreted as a number 4.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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