Howdy! Ben,

A long time ago I found a W98SE CD for a Gateway 2000 PC at a flea market.

I tried to use it in a Virtual Box but it complained that I wasn't using
it on a Gateway 2000 COMPUTER, and it wouldn't RUN, so I couldn't use it.

My other Acer Notebook has Vista Home on it and I thought I could use it
to fool the W95 Recovery CD and get it to store the Recovery info and
the data on the Windows 95 CD that came with the notebook.

First I made TWO Backups for the Vista, One with Acronis True Image and
Another with Macrium Reflect, just in case something happened.

After the Backups were done I put the Win95 Recovery CD into the Vista
CD Tray and turned the Notebook On.

I ran the SETUP program that is on the CD but it couldn't be used on the
newer notebook.

I was hopeing that I could get the Recovery Data and the Windows 95 Data
on the HDD that You sent me, but it failed to do it.

I don't know if the BIOS has software to drive the LCD Display when the
pc is turned On?
I'm guessing that may be the HDD has to have the W95 Video Drivers on it
to show the BIOS Setting on the Display when I turn the notebook On?????

I have been thinking of trying the SUBST or ASSOC Command(s) from a CMD
Prompt to make Your HDD look like it is the C: drive/partition to see if
that would do the job and then putting that HDD in the Windows 95 Notebook
and try again to see if it will make the thing work.

I'll try Ubuntu in a VM one more time to see if I can figure out some way
to load Your HDD with the Win95 files.

As mentioned, I may have broken a wire in one of the Flat Cables inside
the W95 pc, I hope not.
I tried being very careful while inside the Notebook, because I never have
took one apart to Service it, and those flat cables looked very delicate.

If my efforts fail and I can't get the files needed on Your HDD, I might
send the HDD back to You with the Acer Recovery CD and Windows 95 CD that
came with the notebook to see if You have any success.

I will send enough "Stamps" to get it to You, and get my CD's, with or w/o
Your HDD, sent back to me.

Another Thought, I've made ISO's of both of the CD's.
The Recovery CD is 400MB, the Windows 95 CD is 625MB.

I'm not sure if a file of that size can be sent as an attachment in Email? Anyway that is the other thought I had instead of mailing the two CD's with
the HDD.

I heard about the Flooding in Louisiana, hope You and Yours aren't affected
by it.

Also if You don't have the time to play with my w95 project I will just send the HDD back to You (with the "Stamps"),
and I will call it a "Lession Learned".

Thanks for all Your Help and the Help that Others gave to me.


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I don't know if the BIOS has software to drive the LCD Display when
the pc is turned On? I'm guessing that may be the HDD has to have the
W95 Video Drivers on it to show the BIOS Setting on the Display when I turn the notebook On?????

Yes, it does. No drivers needed ...

As mentioned, I may have broken a wire in one of the Flat Cables
inside the W95 pc, I hope not. I tried being very careful while inside
the Notebook, because I never have took one apart to Service it, and
those flat cables looked very delicate.

They are pretty tough actually :) but can come loose ...

If my efforts fail and I can't get the files needed on Your HDD, I
might send the HDD back to You with the Acer Recovery CD and Windows
95 CD that came with the notebook to see if You have any success.

That won't work unless I have the laptop itself :( What I CAN do is clone the old HD onto the new HD for you if that would help ... I use Clonezilla :)

Another Thought, I've made ISO's of both of the CD's.
The Recovery CD is 400MB, the Windows 95 CD is 625MB.
I'm not sure if a file of that size can be sent as an attachment in
Email? Anyway that is the other thought I had instead of mailing the
two CD's with the HDD.

Too big lol

I heard about the Flooding in Louisiana, hope You and Yours aren't affected by it.

My sister had water up to her knees inside her house :( but I am on high ground

so I escaped the flood :)

Also if You don't have the time to play with my w95 project I will

I have the time, if the old HD is viable enough to clone I can help you :) I have both Win95 and Win98 CDs but without the laptop I dunno ... I do have a utility that will pre-install a Windows CD/DVD onto a USB drive if that works I

could try it but it's designed for newer Wins so that's just a maybe {chuckle} personally when I get an older laptop like yours I just salvage the usable parts and file-13 the rest! You're a brave soul tinkering with same lol

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* On Thursday 25 Aug 2016 238 at 06:20 PM,
* Ed Vance said to Ben Ritchey,
* about W95 Notebook Update ...
*

http://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/index.html if you want to try it yourself :)

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08-26-16 07:59 Ben Ritchey wrote to Ed Vance about Re: W95 Notebook Update Howdy! Ben,

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I don't know if the BIOS has software to drive the LCD Display when
the pc is turned On? I'm guessing that may be the HDD has to have the
W95 Video Drivers on it to show the BIOS Setting on the Display when I turn the notebook On?????

Yes, it does. No drivers needed ...

O.K., Thanks.
So I may have to take the W95 notebook apart a Fourth time to figure out
why I'm seeing those Vertical Lines in the display.

The Second time I opened it up, after I put it back together I noticed
that the two levers to Eject PC Cards out of the PC Card slot didn't
stick out, i.e. they were in the folded position inside the case.

So I had to open the computer up a Third time to get those levers
positioned where they would be sticking out when a PC Card was inserted
in one of the slots, so I could Eject the PC Card by pressing on the
lever for the slot the Card was in. DUH.

As mentioned, I may have broken a wire in one of the Flat Cables

-snip-

They are pretty tough actually :) but can come loose ...

Thanks.

If my efforts fail and I can't get the files needed on Your HDD, I
might send the HDD back to You with the Acer Recovery CD and Windows
95 CD that came with the notebook to see if You have any success.

That won't work unless I have the laptop itself :( What I CAN do is
clone the old HD onto the new HD for you if that would help ... I use Clonezilla :)

I've heard of Clonezilla but never used it, so after seeing You mention it
I downloaded a copy of it and will try using Clonezilla to see if it can
SEE the old Win95 HDD and I can Clone it to the new HDD.
I'll try using it on the Vista notebook that has a Intel Celeron 550 CPU. Thanks for the idea.

I have two USB adapters that I use with IDE HDD's, and the other day I used both of them on the Vista notebook with the two IDE HDD's.

Yours shows up perfectly in Windows Explorer (WE) when it is connected.
My old one isn't shown in WE's list until I wait, and wait and wait.....

While I'm waiting it chatters occasionally and finally is shown in WE's
listing as a Local Drive but the size of the drive doesn't appear.

I've tried Logging On to a Admin Account in Vista and WE shows the same as
the Standard Account does, your HDD shows up fine in the listing,
my old HDD finally gets a Drive Letter but doesn't show anything else.

I wanted to Hibernate the Vista box one night with both of those HDD's connected and it wouldn't Hibernate.
So I tried the Shut Down option but it wouldn't Shut Down either.

I had to do a Hard Shut Down by holding the Power Button in until it turned itself Off.
It does that in either the Standard or Admin account. PC=1 ED=0

Another Thought, I've made ISO's of both of the CD's.
The Recovery CD is 400MB, the Windows 95 CD is 625MB.

-snip-

Too big lol

I heard about the Flooding in Louisiana, hope You and Yours aren't affected by it.

My sister had water up to her knees inside her house :( but I am on
high ground

so I escaped the flood :)

Knee High Water makes a big mess, sorry to hear that Your Sister's home
got flooded.

Also if You don't have the time to play with my w95 project I will

I have the time, if the old HD is viable enough to clone I can help you
:) I have both Win95 and Win98 CDs but without the laptop I dunno ... I
do have a utility that will pre-install a Windows CD/DVD onto a USB
drive if that works I

I tried the wintousb URL last night but wasn't able to get the page to behave. I will try again later today.

could try it but it's designed for newer Wins so that's just a maybe

Vista is the newest Win I own, I used the XP machine to try accessing their website last night, I'll try using the Vista box to see if I can get their page(s) to load.

{chuckle} personally when I get an older laptop like yours I just
salvage the usable parts and file-13 the rest! You're a brave soul tinkering with same lol

It is an old notebook and I thought that maybe I could resurrect it.

The program that came with the Win95 box that I really liked using,
is called Sidekick and was made by Starfish Software.

I did a search for sidekick a year or two ago but the Results List didn't
show the same program that was made to run with my Acer W95 notebook.

iirc, the Sidekick program said it only ran on Win95 or maybe some other
O/S that was released close to the date Win95 was offered by MS.

I'll try another Search to see if Sidekick is useable on an XP or Vista
pc.

I really liked the World Time option the Sidekick program that the Acer pc
came with.
It had a Map of the World and shown the Time and Date for 6(?) places
that I selected.


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The program that came with the Win95 box that I really liked using,
is called Sidekick and was made by Starfish Software.

I have a 4 disk set: Borland SideKick Plus for DOS v1.00A (1988)

Probably too old, like me lol


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