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º ùNEW Support for UTF-8 Encoding º
º ùNEW Improved CP866 support º
º ùNEW Full Hi-ASCII support in Mails º
º ùNEW Better support for gateways º
º ùNEW Improved Localization º
º ùNEW Charset handling improvements º
º ùFIX Various improvements º
º ùFIX Better time zone handling º
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Hello All,

I produced an updated installation program along with the latest beta version. You can download it from

http://www.winpoint.org/WPSetup_382.zip

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

Hello Tim!

*** Monday 13.12.21 at 20:35:51, Tim Schattkowsky wrote to All:

[snip]

I produced an updated installation program along with the latest beta version. You can download it from

http://www.winpoint.org/WPSetup_382.zip

Got it, thanks.

The setup utility updated my existing 375.0 installation without any problems whatsoever. After doing a *quick* tour of the new 382.0 installation, I see quite a number of small changes here and there which make such a big difference to the usability of the software. I appreciate all the time, effort and hard work that must have gone into this and all I can say is, thank you very much for a job well done!

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:310/31.7)

AREA:WINPOINT
@MSGID: 2:240/1120.29 0648a602
@CHRS: IBMPC 2
@TZUTC: 0100
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º Û Û ÛÛÛÛ º
º Û Û Û Û WinPoint º
º Û Û ÛÛÛÛ Public Beta 6 º
º Û Û Û Û 2021-12-14 º
º Û Û Û º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
º Complete Point Software for Windows º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĶ
º Most notable changes since Beta 5: º
º ùNEW Support for newer Windows vers º
º ùNEW Support for UTF-8 Encoding º
º ùNEW Improved CP866 support º
º ùNEW Full Hi-ASCII support in Mails º
º ùNEW Better support for gateways º
º ùNEW Improved Localization º
º ùNEW Charset handling improvements º
º ùFIX Various improvements º
º ùFIX Better time zone handling º
º ùFIX Various bug fixes º ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ

Hello All,

I produced an updated installation program along with the latest beta version. You can download it from

http://www.winpoint.org/WPSetup_382.zip

Installed over previous 375.

Seems to work ok. :)

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)
SEEN-BY: 30/0 221/1 6 229/426 240/1120 261/38 280/464 282/464 292/854 301/0 1 SEEN-BY: 301/101 113 335/364 341/66 371/0 920/1 2452/250
5020/1042 5058/104
@PATH: 240/1120 301/1 221/6

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: ---> (2:221/6.256)

//Hello Martin,//

on *14.12.21* at *11:20:33* You wrote in rea *WINPOINT*
to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"WInPoint Beta 6 Available"*.

The setup utility updated my existing 375.0 installation without any problems whatsoever.

Thats how we like it :)

After doing a quick tour of the new 382.0
installation, I see quite a number of small changes here and there which make such a big difference to the usability of the software. I appreciate all the time, effort and hard work that must have gone into this and all
I can say is, thank you very much for a job well done!

Thanks for noticing. I really try to improve the "everyday experience" whenever I come across something I don't like. Actually given the age of the software and the fact that I left it half complete, I come across a lot of things. However, I think there has been significant progress recently and I will try to fix at least all of the important points on my list which includes support for full localization, which I keep adding incrementally as I come across things.

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 384.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

Hello Tim!

*** Friday 17.12.21 at 23:55:02, Tim Schattkowsky wrote to Martin Foster:

However, I think there has been significant progress recently

Oh yes, absolutely and I would go so far as to say, that in its current state, it's quite safe to use on a daily basis by anyone who cares to do so.

and I will try to fix at least all of the important points on my list which includes support for full localization, which I keep adding incrementally as I come across things.

Excellent, keep up the good work :)

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:310/31.7)

Hi Tim,

On 2022-01-09 09:43:37, Carlos Navarro wrote to you:

@MSGID: 2:341/234.5 1ae45e8f
@REPLY: 2:240/1120.29 0648a602

...

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)
SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 280/464 5003 292/854 8125 301/1 SEEN-BY: 310/31 341/66 234 460/58 712/848 2452/250
@PATH: 341/234 280/464

I think there is something broken in this version. The time field of the message in the pkt file contained this, when it arrived here directly from Carlos:

"09 ene. 22 09:43:37"

This probably confused some tossers along the way, because through another route I got this in my log for this message:

10:53:48.582 Pkt info: HPT 1.9, Type 2+, 895, 2022-01-09 10:53:01, Pwd, Sec 10:53:48.582 Error in pkt date: 00 00 00:00:00

This confused my tosser so bad it ended up in my netmail, with the header fields mangled up, and no body text...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

09 Jan 2022 13:32, you wrote to Tim Schattkowsky:

I think there is something broken in this version. The time field of
the message in the pkt file contained this, when it arrived here
directly from Carlos:

"09 ene. 22 09:43:37"

Hmm.. it should be "09 Jan 22 ..."

"ene." (enero) is "Jan" (January) in Spanish, so it seems it gets the string from the system locale...

I had detected some issues with dates and intented to the report after a bit of research... but you already found it ;-)

This probably confused some tossers along the way, because through
another route I got this in my log for this message:

10:53:48.582 Pkt info: HPT 1.9, Type 2+, 895, 2022-01-09 10:53:01,
Pwd, Sec
10:53:48.582 Error in pkt date: 00 00 00:00:00

This confused my tosser so bad it ended up in my netmail, with the
header fields mangled up, and no body text...

I have received other reports of bad netmails like that, from Angel and Stas.

Carlos

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234)

Hello Wilfred,

Hi Tim,

On 2022-01-09 09:43:37, Carlos Navarro wrote to you:

@MSGID: 2:341/234.5 1ae45e8f
@REPLY: 2:240/1120.29 0648a602

...

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin (2:341/234.5)

@PATH: 341/234 280/464

I think there is something broken in this version. The time field of the message in the pkt file contained this, when it arrived here directly from Carlos:

"09 ene. 22 09:43:37"

Enero, january in spanish. :)

This probably confused some tossers along the way, because through another route I got this in my log for this message:

10:53:48.582 Pkt info: HPT 1.9, Type 2+, 895, 2022-01-09 10:53:01, Pwd, Sec
10:53:48.582 Error in pkt date: 00 00 00:00:00

This confused my tosser so bad it ended up in my netmail, with the
header fields mangled up, and no body text...

Yes, one bad "netmail" at 2:221/1 from your system too..

The english version of WP seems to work fine.

'Tommi

--- WinPoint 382.0
* Origin: Not the Original WinPoint Origin! (2:221/1.2)

Yes, one bad "netmail" at 2:221/1 from your system too..

The english version of WP seems to work fine.

The installer lets you select Spanish but once installed it's mostly in English (some texts still in German). I don't remember if I had the previous beta 5 version in Spanish or English.

Anyway, Tim has been really quick fixing this issue.

Carlos
--- WinPoint 387.0
* Origin: Not very original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)

//Hello Carlos,//

on *09.01.22* at *18:58:03* You wrote in rea *WINPOINT*
to *Tommi Koivula* about *"WInPoint Beta 6 Available"*.

Yes, one bad "netmail" at 2:221/1 from your system too..

The english version of WP seems to work fine.

The installer lets you select Spanish but once installed it's mostly in English (some texts still in German).

All that comes in english can be translated by anybody editing the lang_Espanol file. I by default provide an english translation and copy anything new also over to the spanish language file (still in english).

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 387.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

The installer lets you select Spanish but once installed it's
mostly in English (some texts still in German).

All that comes in english can be translated by anybody editing the lang_Espanol file. I by default provide an english translation and
copy anything new also over to the spanish language file (still in english).

I'll give it a try (when I have the time).

Carlos
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.12)

The installer lets you select Spanish but once installed it's mostly in
English (some texts still in German).

All that comes in english can be translated by anybody editing the
lang_Espanol file. I by default provide an english translation and copy
anything new also over to the spanish language file (still in english).

I'll give it a try (when I have the time).

I have selected Spanish in Options and I see it's mostly translated. Sorry again I didn't realize (I think I read some time ago that it was only going to be available in English)

Carlos

--- WinPoint 389.0
* Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)

I have selected Spanish in Options and I see it's mostly translated.
Sorry again I didn't realize (I think I read some time ago that it was
only going to be available in English)

This spanisch translation exists at least since 2007 ;)

Yes, even since 2006, by Albano de Manuel.

But maybe you want to add to it in places where the translation currently shows only english.

I'll ask Albano (who is still around, and using WinPoint) if he still wants and has the time to complete it. If not, I'll try to do.

I think with the upcoming release, 95% of all essential stuff should be localizable with the area manager and the file request manager probably being the most notable exceptions. Both are however "optional" in the sense that you dont really need them to operate a point because they are only a convenient frontend for the respective netmails. Also, I think
they maybe quite usable even without a proper transloation.

True... Maybe not for the general public, but for returnees it should not be difficult.

Finally, I still have the plan to enable localization for these soon.

Great.

Carlos

--- WinPoint 389.0
* Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)

//Hello Carlos,//

on *16.01.22* at *19:13:44* You wrote in rea *WINPOINT*
to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"WInPoint Beta 6 Available"*.

But maybe you want to add to it in places where the translation
currently shows only english.

I'll ask Albano (who is still around, and using WinPoint) if he still wants and has the time to complete it. If not, I'll try to do.

Great! Thanks for your support!

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 391.0
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)