• Two dumb questions

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon Feb 28 10:49:50 2022
    Hello All,

    1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Feb 28 11:26:27 2022
    Hello Michiel!

    *** Monday 28.02.22 at 9:49:50, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    MvdV> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    Not that I'm aware of but it would be nice if it could ;)

    MvdV> 2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?

    No idea but I'm sure Tim wil be able to give you a definitive answer.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Feb 28 12:37:27 2022
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *28.02.22* at *9:49:50* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
    to *All* about *"Two dumb questions"*.

    MvdV> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    No. Originally, that made little sense for a point software. Nowadays, I see some potential in that (also as a kind of Mini-Node). However, I think that people may dislike the idea of runnin a GUI application as a server. Separating the GUI would probably be serious work.

    MvdV> 2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?

    Probably not. It has not been explicitly implemented. However, I have another softwre project of similar age, that (for complex technical reasons) turned out to surprisingly almost fully support IPv6. The only problem was, that it was due to parsing of the inpunt simply not possible to enter IPv6 adresses, but using DNS worked as well as accepting incoming connections from IPv6 clients. So in total it took me like 10 minutes to fix that one.

    Overall, I have it on the list and care about that soon. Do you have a test system for me?

    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Martin Foster on Mon Feb 28 12:39:08 2022
    //Hello Martin,//

    on *28.02.22* at *11:26:27* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
    to *Michiel van der Vlist* about *"Two dumb questions"*.

    MvdV>> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    BTW: What application scenarios do you think of?

    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to Tim Schattkowsky on Mon Feb 28 12:02:36 2022
    Hello Tim!

    *** Monday 28.02.22 at 11:39:08, Tim Schattkowsky wrote to Martin Foster:

    MvdV>> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    BTW: What application scenarios do you think of?

    Are you asking me or are you asking Michiel :)

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to Tim Schattkowsky on Mon Feb 28 12:12:43 2022
    Hello Tim!

    *** Monday 28.02.22 at 11:37:27, Tim Schattkowsky wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    No. Originally, that made little sense for a point software. Nowadays, I see some potential in that (also as a kind of Mini-Node). However, I
    think that people may dislike the idea of runnin a GUI application as a server. Separating the GUI would probably be serious work.

    Personally, I don't dislike the idea at all. On the contrary, I would positively embrace it. Go for it ;-)

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tim Schattkowsky on Mon Feb 28 14:50:56 2022
    Hello Tim,

    On Monday February 28 2022 12:37, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    No. Originally, that made little sense for a point software. Nowadays,
    I see some potential in that (also as a kind of Mini-Node). However, I think that people may dislike the idea of runnin a GUI application as
    a server. Separating the GUI would probably be serious work.

    In the haydays of Fidonet, the pointlist was considered a breeding pond for new sysops. They had the opportunity to get to know the basic principles of Fionet and could familiarize themselves with the software. Making their sysyems accept incoming calls was one of the steps on the ladder. Of course in those days there was no dedicated point software, they used fully fledged mailers.

    MvdV>> 2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?

    Probably not. It has not been explicitly implemented. However, I have another softwre project of similar age, that (for complex technical reasons) turned out to surprisingly almost fully support IPv6. The
    only problem was, that it was due to parsing of the inpunt simply not possible to enter IPv6 adresses, but using DNS worked as well as
    accepting incoming connections from IPv6 clients. So in total it took
    me like 10 minutes to fix that one.

    My point Rinaldo started out with Binkd, Fmail and Golded. He did not like the config text files and so went looking elsewhere and he found Winpoint. But I have not given up hope of one day promoting hin to fully fledged node, hence my question about incoming calls.

    And why IPv6? Well, it so happens that he is on a DS-Lite connection. He does not have a public IPv4 address of his own, so if he is going to accept incoming calls, it wil be IPv6 only. I saw him come in on IPv4 and hence my question about IPv6. I was hoping it would be a setting in Winpoint...

    Overall, I have it on the list and care about that soon. Do you have a test system for me?

    You can always try to connect to my system. It answers on IPv6 and IPv4.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6.256 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Feb 28 18:00:24 2022


    MvdV> 2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?

    28 02 22 17.56.29 HOST Connecting to host v6.fidonet.fi:24554
    28 02 22 17.56.29 MAKE Making Connection
    28 02 22 17.56.29 IREM Invalid remote address
    28 02 22 17.56.29 FAIL Connection failed

    Apparently not.

    'Tommi

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Martin Foster on Mon Feb 28 16:20:44 2022
    //Hello Martin,//

    on *28.02.22* at *12:02:36* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
    to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"Two dumb questions"*.

    Hello Tim!

    *** Monday 28.02.22 at 11:39:08, Tim Schattkowsky wrote to Martin Foster:

    MvdV>> 1) Can Winpoint accept incoming calls?

    BTW: What application scenarios do you think of?

    Are you asking me or are you asking Michiel :)

    Both :)

    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Feb 28 19:39:30 2022
    //Hello Tommi,//

    on *28.02.22* at *16:00:24* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
    to *Michiel van der Vlist* about *"Two dumb questions"*.

    MvdV>> 2) Does Winpoint support IPv6?

    28 02 22 17.56.29 HOST Connecting to host v6.fidonet.fi:24554
    28 02 22 17.56.29 MAKE Making Connection
    28 02 22 17.56.29 IREM Invalid remote address
    28 02 22 17.56.29 FAIL Connection failed

    Apparently not.

    Indeed. Will check soon.

    Regards,
    Tim

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